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Pesqueeb

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Bigly transparency.

forensicnews.net

Stonewalled: The numbers behind the Trump administration's refusal to cooperate

With news reports of the Trump administration's refusal to cooperate with Congressional probes piling up, I set out to find the true breadth of the stonewalling, digging through media reports and congressional press releases going back to the beginning of 2019, when the Democrats took control of...
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Pesqueeb

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"But the President didn’t hold hands with Zelensky and spin around and look into a bathroom mirror and say Quid Pro Quo three times so it doesn’t count! "

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Top Republicans say impeachment resolution is too little too late

Top Republicans in the House said Monday that Democratic leadership’s decision to bring a resolution on impeachment procedures to the floor on Thursday is too little too late. Since Demo…
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Brian HCM#1

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Pesqueeb said:
"bUt hE RelEAseD thE TranCRipT!"
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Official Reveals Trump’s ‘Exact Call’ With Zelensky Was Edited Down

The “rough transcript” is a cover-up, Vindman testifies to Congress.
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Now from the other side, I heard Vindman was being steered by Schiff. In the addition to the Republicans not being able to ask questions, as was told by Schiff not to answer any Republican questions which has been the case with everyone called to testify. Schiff is leaking info from these behind closed door hearings, for only one purpose. Republicans are asking for full transparency, aren't you interested at all hearing from the other side, wouldn't it be fair that if Vandman is making these claims, the Republicans should be able to ask follow up questions? Well, they get shut down every time they try. What ever happened to due process? IMO this is the last hail Mary from the left, and will blow up in their face just like the Mueller investigation. Here's where it can get really interesting. With the impeachment vote inquiry, if that passes which it should, it then goes to the senate. The right will drag this out for as long as possible as all senators must be present during these hearings not allowing senators to campaign, which may hurt Warren, Sanders, Harris, Booker etc. because they're stuck in Washington. At the end of the day, the left is 99.9% sure they don't have a strong enough candidate to beat Trump and that's why the left is doing what they're doing. Yes, its very obvious.
 
Jm_

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Brian HCM#1 said:
Now from the other side, I heard Vindman was being steered by Schiff. In the addition to the Republicans not being able to ask questions, as was told by Schiff not to answer any Republican questions which has been the case with everyone called to testify. Schiff is leaking info from these behind closed door hearings, for only one purpose. Republicans are asking for full transparency, aren't you interested at all hearing from the other side, wouldn't it be fair that if Vandman is making these claims, the Republicans should be able to ask follow up questions? Well, they get shut down every time they try. What ever happened to due process? IMO this is the last hail Mary from the left, and will blow up in their face just like the Mueller investigation. Here's where it can get really interesting. With the impeachment vote inquiry, if that passes which it should, it then goes to the senate. The right will drag this out for as long as possible as all senators must be present during these hearings not allowing senators to campaign, which may hurt Warren, Sanders, Harris, Booker etc. because they're stuck in Washington. At the end of the day, the left is 99.9% sure they don't have a strong enough candidate to beat Trump and that's why the left is doing what they're doing. Yes, its very obvious.
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#pizzagate ?
 
Brian HCM#1

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Pesqueeb said:
You clearly don't understand how any of this works.
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I do, but these are supposed to be private testimony's in which NO information is supposed to be made public. Funny how some info happens to make it out of the so called private testimony's, only if it favors, I'll say it........ One side. That's why we have the article you posted above, then again there are only bias articles in the media for the most part in today's politics.
 
jonKranked

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Brian HCM#1 said:
I do, but these are supposed to be private testimony's in which NO information is supposed to be made public. Funny how some info happens to make it out of the so called private testimony's, only if it favors, I'll say it........ One side. That's why we have the article you posted above, then again there are only bias articles in the media for the most part in today's politics.
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or maybe no evidence has emerged that favors the other side....... because there is none.
 
Pesqueeb

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Brian HCM#1 said:
I do, but these are supposed to be private testimony's in which NO information is supposed to be made public. Funny how some info happens to make it out of the so called private testimony's, only if it favors, I'll say it........ One side. That's why we have the article you posted above, then again there are only bias articles in the media for the most part in today's politics.
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Have you spoken to Devin Nunes about this?
 
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Nick

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Brian HCM#1 said:
Now from the other side, I heard Vindman was being steered by Schiff. In the addition to the Republicans not being able to ask questions, as was told by Schiff not to answer any Republican questions which has been the case with everyone called to testify. Schiff is leaking info from these behind closed door hearings, for only one purpose. Republicans are asking for full transparency, aren't you interested at all hearing from the other side, wouldn't it be fair that if Vandman is making these claims, the Republicans should be able to ask follow up questions? Well, they get shut down every time they try. What ever happened to due process? IMO this is the last hail Mary from the left, and will blow up in their face just like the Mueller investigation. Here's where it can get really interesting. With the impeachment vote inquiry, if that passes which it should, it then goes to the senate. The right will drag this out for as long as possible as all senators must be present during these hearings not allowing senators to campaign, which may hurt Warren, Sanders, Harris, Booker etc. because they're stuck in Washington. At the end of the day, the left is 99.9% sure they don't have a strong enough candidate to beat Trump and that's why the left is doing what they're doing. Yes, its very obvious.
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This is how the process is supposed to work. This is the investigation. One side gathering info. The defense of the President will have every opportunity to counter, when it's time.

The Mueller investigation didn't blow up. It shows repeated obstruction of justice, and dozens of inappropriate contacts by Trump staff and family with a foreign power, all of which we're lied about. Where there is smoke there most certainly is fire.

Why do you think that is?

The most disappointing part of all of this (which is saying a LOT) is how NO Rs seem to care that Trump is crooked as fuck. Defending him is more important than what's good for the country.

Why do you think THAT is?

This isn't happening because the left doesn't have a viable candidate, it's happening because a dishonest, dishonorable, criminal person shouldn't be President.
 
Pesqueeb

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Have you spoken to Devin Nunes about this?
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Speaking of Nunes;
www.politico.com

Testimony: Nunes acolyte misrepresented himself to Trump as Ukraine expert

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman also testified on Tuesday that the National Security Council staffer, Kash Patel, fed the president disinformation about Ukraine.
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But he was instructed “at the last second” not to attend the debriefing, Vindman told lawmakers, because Trump’s advisers worried it might confuse the president: Trump believed at the time that Kashyap Patel, a longtime Nunes staffer who joined the White House in February and had no discernible Ukraine experience or expertise, was actually the NSC’s top Ukraine expert instead of Vindman.
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Brian HCM#1

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Nick said:
This is how the process is supposed to work. This is the investigation. One side gathering info. The defense of the President will have every opportunity to counter, when it's time.

The Mueller investigation didn't blow up. It shows repeated obstruction of justice, and dozens of inappropriate contacts by Trump staff and family with a foreign power, all of which we're lied about. Where there is smoke there most certainly is fire.

Why do you think that is?

The most disappointing part of all of this (which is saying a LOT) is how NO Rs seem to care that Trump is crooked as fuck. Defending him is more important than what's good for the country.

Why do you think THAT is?

This isn't happening because the left doesn't have a viable candidate, it's happening because a dishonest, dishonorable, criminal person shouldn't be President.
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Trump never got a fair shot to begin with. The day he was elected, haven't even taken oath, they were already on the hunt to impeach. Several senators & house member can be found saying it. At the end of the day, the next to impossible happened, a non-politician won the presidency and the left still can't get over the shell shock. My prediction, he won't be impeached and wins the 2020 election easily.
 
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Brian HCM#1 said:
Trump never got a fair shot to begin with. The day he was elected, haven't even taken oath, they were already on the hunt to impeach. Several senators & house member can be found saying it. At the end of the day, the next to impossible happened, a non-politician won the presidency and the left still can't get over the shell shock. My prediction, he won't be impeached and wins the 2020 election easily.
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OK, Boomer.

:p
 
Brian HCM#1

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He was elected, you all may not like him, that’s all fine & dandy. I didn’t care for Obama, but when he was our president, as much as it pained me, I did want him to succeed. Anyways, your nightmare should be over in about 5 years.
 
Nick

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Brian HCM#1 said:
He was elected, you all may not like him, that’s all fine & dandy. I didn’t care for Obama, but when he was our president, as much as it pained me, I did want him to succeed. Anyways, your nightmare should be over in about 5 years.
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Do you care that he's a crook? or that a foreign government systematically shored up his campaign? or that like a dozen people in his immediate circle are in JAIL for what they did, or lying about what they did?

Yes or no, they is no wrong answer. Everybody has different priorities and I get that.

Those things bother the shit out of me.
 
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Pesqueeb

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I'm not sure why anyone wastes their time trying to educate Trump apologists in the error of their ways, it's clearly a cult of personality not beholden to things like facts and logic but:

Brian HCM#1 said:
Trump never got a fair shot to begin with. The day he was elected, haven't even taken oath, they were already on the hunt to impeach.
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I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he was already doing illegal things BEFORE he was even sworn in?

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump's+inaugural+committee+money+laundering&s=g

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Nick

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hey man, call me stupid but I'm honestly trying to understand the other side's perspective. I'm usually pretty good at placing myself in other shoes, but not on this Trump thing. I just don't get it.

It's easier to just dismiss people whom I don't agree with, but I believe that is a mistake. (imho)
 
Jm_

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Brian HCM#1 said:
Trump never got a fair shot to begin with. The day he was elected, haven't even taken oath, they were already on the hunt to impeach. Several senators & house member can be found saying it. At the end of the day, the next to impossible happened, a non-politician won the presidency and the left still can't get over the shell shock. My prediction, he won't be impeached and wins the 2020 election easily.
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The day he took office he couldn’t even be truthful about the size of the inauguration crowd.
 
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