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AngryMetalsmith

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Jun 4, 2006
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From the WaPo article:

“In a cordial and professional conversation, the Special Counsel emphasized that nothing in the Attorney General’s March 24 letter was inaccurate or misleading. But, he expressed frustration over the lack of context and the resulting media coverage regarding the Special Counsel’s obstruction analysis. They then discussed whether additional context from the report would be helpful and could be quickly released.
The actual letter from Mueller to Barr:

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/05/01/letter.32719.pdf
 

mykel

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Order of operations is everything.

Even the way this all came out was pre-determined to minimize damage and maximize spin.

Consider....

If Muellers results had been released in a different order it would shine a different light on just how guilty Trump is
- The obstruction criminal activity released first - guilty
- next the report about conspiracy/collusion in which there was an inability to gather enough evidence to find guilty.

This then shows the blindingly obvious - the obstruction is what resulted in the conspiracy/collusion not rising to the level of criminality in the tightly focused probe.
 

Pesqueeb

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That Barr then LIED TO CONGRESS about on April 10. Not that we care about that sort of thing.

Order of operations is everything.

Even the way this all came out was pre-determined to minimize damage and maximize spin.

Consider....

If Muellers results had been released in a different order it would shine a different light on just how guilty Trump is
- The obstruction criminal activity released first - guilty
- next the report about conspiracy/collusion in which there was an inability to gather enough evidence to find guilty.

This then shows the blindingly obvious - the obstruction is what resulted in the conspiracy/collusion not rising to the level of criminality in the tightly focused probe.
But why are the Democrats so mean to Trump? He's only guilty of loving his country just too damn much.
 

dan-o

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Order of operations is everything.

Even the way this all came out was pre-determined to minimize damage and maximize spin.

Consider....

If Muellers results had been released in a different order it would shine a different light on just how guilty Trump is
- The obstruction criminal activity released first - guilty
- next the report about conspiracy/collusion in which there was an inability to gather enough evidence to find guilty.

This then shows the blindingly obvious - the obstruction is what resulted in the conspiracy/collusion not rising to the level of criminality in the tightly focused probe.
What would make an even bigger difference than order of operations would’ve been Mueller finding him guilty.

But he didn’t or couldn’t so we’re still awash in a sea of butthurt and political
Incompetence. Joy.
 

Adventurous

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jonKranked

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stoney

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Jul 26, 2006
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The White House said in a statement that it was in contact with law enforcement and that President Donald Trump was monitoring the situation.

"Our prayers are with the victims, family members, and all those affected by today’s shooting at STEM School Highlands Ranch in Littleton, Colorado," the statement said. "Tragically, this community and those surrounding it know all too well these hateful and horrible acts of violence."
Highlands Ranch is the city where the school is located. The postal code overlaps and states Littleton, but the city line is over a half mile away. This is like saying the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

This just adds a slight twinge of bitterness to my disdain of this man. Your staff can't even watch the fucking news that are stating repetitively that is "just 8 miles from Columbine High School, in nearby Littleton, CO".
 

dan-o

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Is lyft running for president* on the premise of being the worlds greatest businessman?
Not with losses like that.

These 25yo returns are meaningless.
The casino losses were known before the election. Nobody cares.

I don’t understand fascination with tax returns for any president, tradition aside. Trumps recent returns aren’t going to have a line item for Russian money. At best they will show he inflated his awesomeness. Shocker.

If the economy keeps kicking ass Dems are fucked. Makes no difference if trump is responsible or not.
 

Pesqueeb

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Right. Because losing that kind of money, over that length of time, during one of this nations greatest periods of economic growth, cant possibly be indicative of any kind of pattern or demonstration of how a man might possibly be compromised. :rolleyes:

How did he get back on his feet? Where did he obtain his loans? Who signed off and backed those loans from Deutsche Bank? Why on Earth would someone loan a guy with his track record billions of dollars, especially a guy so toxic American banks wouldnt touch him with a ten foot pole?

Dont you run a business of some sort? Would you put down on your tax forms
"Line 43: 183 millon recieved from one V. Putin" or "Line 44: 200 million received; laundered russia money for trump tower condos"?

GTFO with that with that bad faith argument. That sort of shit is why forensic accounting is a thing. Open up his records. The Reuters piece lays it all out. He's a demonstrably shitty business man (possibly the worst individual ever) with a well known flexible version of reality, morals and a long history of associating with shifty mother fuckers. He couldnt get a basic security clerance in any branch of the government based on his financial history alone, never mind the nebulous history of the folks he runs with. In the late 90s he's broke as fuck and Russian crime bosses are up and coming with suit cases full of cash to stash. Anyone still defending him at this point is human garbage. Anyone saying it doesnt matter has lost thier moral compass. If the democrats cant make this point and could lose the election based solely on the state of the "economy" they dont fucking deserve to win and this country deserves to die.

Edit: that soft headed moron is on twitter this morning basically admitting he commited tax fraud during those years.

"It's fake news that I lost $1 billon. Yes it says that on my taxes, but the simple explanation is I was committing tax fraud! Very cool, very normal. Everyone does it! Makes me very smrt!"
 
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rockofullr

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I don’t understand fascination with tax returns for any president, tradition aside.
Originally I was in this boat. Probably nothing to see except that he dodges taxes.

But then he made a big deal out of not showing them so I'm interested. That old phrase "the lady doth protest too much" comes to mind.
 

stevew

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Right. Because losing that kind of money, over that length of time, during one of this nations greatest periods of economic growth, cant possibly be indicative of any kind of pattern or demonstration of how a man might possibly be compromised. :rolleyes:

How did he get back on his feet? Where did he obtain his loans? Who signed off and backed those loans from Deutsche Bank? Why on Earth would someone loan a guy with his track record billions of dollars, especially a guy so toxic American banks wouldnt touch him with a ten foot pole?

Dont you run a business of some sort? Would you put down on your tax forms
"Line 43: 183 millon recieved from one V. Putin" or "Line 44: 200 million received; laundered russia money for trump tower condos"?

GTFO with that with that bad faith argument. That sort of shit is why forensic accounting is a thing. Open up his records. The Reuters piece lays it all out. He's a demonstrably shitty business man (possibly the worst individual ever) with a well known flexible version of reality, morals and a long history of associating with shifty mother fuckers. He couldnt get a basic security clerance in any branch of the government based on his financial history alone, never mind the nebulous history of the folks he runs with. In the late 90s he's broke as fuck and Russian crime bosses are up and coming with suit cases full of cash to stash. Anyone still defending him at this point is human garbage. Anyone saying it doesnt matter has lost thier moral compass. If the democrats cant make this point and could lose the election based solely on the state of the "economy" they dont fucking deserve to win and this country deserves to die.

Edit: that soft headed moron is on twitter this morning basically admitting he commited tax fraud during those years.

"It's fake news that I lost $1 billon. Yes it says that on my taxes, but the simple explanation is I was committing tax fraud! Very cool, very normal. Everyone does it! Makes me very smrt!"
his boot straps are the stuff of legend....
 

Pesqueeb

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It seems we’ve reached maximum butthurt with both parties and they’ve become incapable of doing their jobs.

Now’s the time to get government more involved in every aspect of our lives.
Well, apathy, both side-ism, and acceptance of status quo certianly seem like an appropriate response then. Certianly dont step up and demand or expect more.
 
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dan-o

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Well, apathy, both side-ism, and acceptance of status quo certianly seem like an appropriate response then. Certianly dont step up and demand or expect more.
But broad stroke judgements of those who think differently is the answer? If you’re not blindly supporting the DNC you’re a nazi deplorable in this day and age.

I’ve been around this rodeo long enough to have realistic expectations. You’re damned to an eternity of angst chasing perfect because it doesn’t exist. Look at the bullshit being spewed by 2020 candidates. Give me a fucking break.

Government should operate in the background, not as a focal point. This country is fucked up because we let them steer the narrative.