[sundaydoug]

Maybe it's a terrain thing. Based on the design it should work well in rock gardens but would probably suffer on high speed breaking bumps or other small high interval impacts.

What kind of trails did you ride?

I was riding in Sedona, so a mix of smooth hardpack and chunk. Aside from the red dirt everywhere and big rock slabs I didn't feel that the terrain was all that different than the east-coast tech I'm used to. I was only there for a day though, so not nearly enough time to judge the terrain properly. It was also the first time that I had ever been there, so it wasn't the best setting for any kind of objective comparison.

I rode the fork on my buddy's bike for about an hour before switching back to a familiar bike with a Fox 36. I didn't ride any trails with braking bumps, so I can't comment on that aspect.

 

[djjohnr]

https://www.bikemag.com/gear/components/suspension/forks/tested-trust-performance-message-fork/

tldr - fork doesn't smooth out fast repeated impacts, likely because at speed through some types of terrain the impacts are more vertical

 

[jackalope]

https://www.bikemag.com/gear/components/suspension/forks/tested-trust-performance-message-fork/

tldr - fork doesn't smooth out fast repeated impacts, likely because at speed through some types of terrain the impacts are more vertical

O rly? Be seeing you soon old chap, real soon....

 

[slyfink]

They sure put a good spin on it at the end... "Not great currently, but it shows promise, so with a little more effort, we might want to ride it".

 

[dan-o]

They sure put a good spin on it at the end... "Not great currently, but it shows promise, so with a little more effort, we might want to ride it".

The Bike advertising sales department wrote that part.

 

[4xBoy]

Big price drop.

Now $1975

$1000 credit for new purchases for current owners.

 

[kidwoo]

Big price drop.

Now $1975

$1000 credit for new purchases for current owners.

That's a weird message to send.

 

[slimshady]

$1000 credit for new purchases for current owners.

That amounts to a bazillion caps and shirts!

Quick, let's summon any s with a Trust fork to claim their credit and ask Trust to exchange their logo for RM's one!

 

[gemini2k]

Sounds like it would be cool to try a lighter, less burly (~3lb) version on an XC hardtail. Maybe the amazing stiffness/weight could be a nice alternative to the step-cast like noddle forks.

 

[kidwoo]

A friend of mine had one of these to 'test' for about two months. He asked me if I wanted to ride it. Is it weird I said 'not really?'


Echoed some of the preload weird axle path discussions that others are bringing up.

 

[gemini2k]

A friend of mine had one of these to 'test' for about two months. He asked me if I wanted to ride it. Is it weird I said 'not really?'


Echoed some of the preload weird axle path discussions that others are bringing up.

Yes it is weird.

 

[maxyedor]

Yeah, that's weird, I don't think I'd go out of my way to ride one, because lets face it, even if it were the cat's ass I wouldn't buy one, but if offered and easy, why not take it for a rip?

That $1000 price drop tells me the message went to most people's spam folder. Can't say I'm shocked, it got probably the worst reveiws of any current trail fork and cost more than a whole bucket of 36s. That's a tough sell.

 

[dump]

$1000 price drop? Suggests that units aren't selling... Hope they can work it out – they sure seem to have a lot invested in this.
Also think a "light" version could sell well for the XC folks.

That $1000 credit... makes getting another one just $1000 more. Could be tempting for fans of the fork.

 

[Nick]

My $.02


Fuck that stupid thing.

 

[jstuhlman]

plz see my signature. AGAIN.

 

[dan-o]

$1000 price drop? Suggests that units aren't selling... Hope they can work it out – they sure seem to have a lot invested in this.
Also think a "light" version could sell well for the XC folks.

That $1000 credit... makes getting another one just $1000 more. Could be tempting for fans of the fork.

They’ll be selling for $1000 in about 4 weeks anyway, credit or not.

Not because they’re POS, but due to ‘manufacturing efficiencies’ lol. DW should be trumps press secretary he spews so much shit.

 

[jonKranked]

They’ll be selling for $1000 in about 4 weeks anyway, credit or not.

Not because they’re POS, but due to ‘manufacturing efficiencies’ lol. DW should be trumps press secretary he spews so much shit.

They're most likely just ordering larger batches . economies of scale and all.

 

[Westy]

They're most likely just ordering larger batches . economies of scale and all.

Probably cranking them out like model T's

 

[jonKranked]

Probably cranking them out like model T's

Asia.

 

[ianjenn]

They're most likely just ordering larger batches . economies of scale and all.

They sold through that first bacth of 20 already? Somehow I doubt it all of those must have been for media.....

 

[jonKranked]

They sold through that first bacth of 20 already? Somehow I doubt it all of those must have been for media.....

damn and i thought i was a cynical asshole.

 

[rockofullr]

i thought i was a cynical asshole

You are

 

[jonKranked]

You are

that's for sure.

 

[roflbox]

did not realize that the 1k was a credit towards a new product, not a 1k refund

" Riders who purchased a Message at the original MSRP, and have it registered with Trust Performance before May 31, 2019, will receive a $1,000 credit toward their next Trust Performance suspension purchase."

 

[jonKranked]

did not realize that the 1k was a credit towards a new product, not a 1k refund

" Riders who purchased a Message at the original MSRP, and have it registered with Trust Performance before May 31, 2019, will receive a $1,000 credit toward their next Trust Performance suspension purchase."

part of me wonders if this is an indication that they have additional products in the works.

 

[roflbox]

part of me wonders if this is an indication that they have additional products in the works.

who knows, maybe they now have a thudbuster clone that instead has a large, veiny, firm, and supportive ............... saddle

 

[Sandwich]

part of me wonders if this is an indication that they have additional products in the works.

why? they have a fork that works on 100% of front ends, regardless of wheel size, travel, or intended use.

Maybe they built a gravel specific one.

 

[canadmos]

What's funny is that didn't one of their original press releases or teasers describe that their product has been a few years in the making? So they had years to get everything correct, optimized and relationships formed, but that stuff only happened after selling the first few? Oops?

 

[canadmos]

Their press release just popped up on Teh PB:

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/trust-chops-725-off-their-linkage-fork.html

 

[jonKranked]

Their press release just popped up on Teh PB:

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/trust-chops-725-off-their-linkage-fork.html

the comments

 

[roflbox]

"“We’re serious about turning things in the industry upside down. We’re out to start a movement,” said Trust Performance Founder and Technical Director, Dave Weagle. “It’s a movement that starts with high fives and ends with the best ride our friends have ever had.”"


part2

 

[FlipSide]

part of me wonders if this is an indication that they have additional products in the works.

Or they simply hope people will buy 1000$ worth of Trust merch.

 

[roflbox]

And also, dealers who bought one only get more Trustbucks (tm)

 

[kidwoo]

they have a fork that works on 100% of front ends, regardless of wheel size, travel, or intended use.

Hahaha!

Sure they do.

 

[Sandwich]

Hahaha!

Sure they do.

did I need a /s for sarcasm? dammit innernet

 

[kidwoo]

did I need a /s for sarcasm? dammit innernet

I'm laughing with you, not at you.




this time

 

[4xBoy]

Linkage is better, linkage is better, linkage is better.

Single pivot frame.

 

[Westy]

Or they simply hope people will buy 1000$ worth of Trust merch.

It will be the next big lifestyle brand next to Harley and Yeti coolers.

 

[slyfink]

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-6-months-on-the-trust-message-linkage-fork.html
(haven't read it yet, wanted to be the first to post it! )

 

[jonKranked]

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-6-months-on-the-trust-message-linkage-fork.html
(haven't read it yet, wanted to be the first to post it! )

i've ready it, at least the important parts. i found it surprisingly objective.