[dirtydirtysouf]

at my local bike shop i was asking one of the builders about running lower PSI in my tires. i run about 60# in them now cause of my body weight (280# ink: ) and i dont want to get pinch flats, but i would like to run lower PSI so i dont jar myself to death..........so the builder suggested that i run tubless tires but the $$$$ for a stronger rim (for my 280# frame) and the tires is about $500, a lil to rich for me at this time........so he said that he ran tubless tires with tubes in them to get a lower PSI for about 3 years before they came out with a good set-up that he liked........

so my question is have any of you done this type of set up before and if you did what was the pro/cons of this set up........and how is it possable to run lower PSI with the tubless tires and tub combo then a reg. tub/tire setup

thanks

 

[OrthoPT]

Try running Stan's Tubeless with regular tires. No tubes to pinch. They are a little tricky to set up, but work great once they are.

 

[binary visions]

I think your LBS guy means that a lot of tubeless tires have thicker sidewalls than some lighter weight tubed tires. There's nothing magical about "tubeless tires", it's just their nature that they can't be super thin, single wall, lightweight tires.

Thus, you might solve your problem by simply running some heavier tires. Or tubeless tires, whatever works for you, I'm just pointing out that some heavy Intense tires will work just as well as something branded "tubeless".

However, at your weight, you're simply going to be very hard on tires. A Stan's setup might serve you very well - I personally like mine a lot. I run Michelin tires and have never had a problem with air leaking or "burping" on corners. Plus, you get puncture protection

 

[rideit]

I agree, just run downhill tires! That is one big bonus about your weight, no need to stress over a 1,100 gram tire!
You will be amazed at the added traction, control, and float a DH tire will give you. Good Luck!

 

[dirtydirtysouf]

I agree, just run downhill tires! That is one big bonus about your weight, no need to stress over a 1,100 gram tire!
You will be amazed at the added traction, control, and float a DH tire will give you. Good Luck!

yea thats what i was thinking when the bike shop guys said it was going to add some weight to the bike......i was like "hell i weigh 280#,carry 2 spare tubes, 2L of water and tools whats a few more pounds to pedel around"............

so what brand name of tires should i look into ? im looking for a tire that will work in the NC dry spells and when we get rain and the clay turns to PB..........

i have looked at Maxxis Ignitor UST and the Continental Vertical UST

 

[binary visions]

What kind of bike/riding?

 

[dirtydirtysouf]

its a gary fisher advance........

i like riding fireroads, single track, double track some road if i have to cross it to to keep going to the next trail......once i drop more weight i will probably be looking do do more agressive riding (small drops and working my way up)...........im pretty ruff on my bike i had to replace the front fork 3 weeks after having it

 

[binary visions]

Maybe a 2.3" DH tire? It may well be overkill, I don't know how often you're actually getting punctures. Something like a Michelin Comp24 in a 2.3" size will be MUCH heavier than a trail tire but it won't be as extreme as something like an Intense DH tire.

 

[dirtydirtysouf]

Maybe a 2.3" DH tire? .

what name brands would you suggest that i start looking at? and were in NC are you hiding at?

 

[binary visions]

what name brands would you suggest that i start looking at? and were in NC are you hiding at?

Greenville... Just moved down here about 9 months ago.

I'd highly recommend Michelin, I think they strike a great balance between too heavy and too light, and their rubber compound rocks.

Maxxis would probably be my second choice - I've ridden a bunch of different tires of theirs that I liked. Intense tires are nice and sticky but are generally too heavy for my liking.

 

[dirtydirtysouf]

yea grrenville is a great town, abuddy of mine went to ECU there......

well thanks for the tire info im going to start serching DH tires from maxxis, contenntal, and other places...........

 

[dirtydirtysouf]

do any of you see a prblem running this combo of tires?

maxxis Ignitor UST (front 26x2.35) http://www.maxxis.com/products/bicycle/product_detail.asp?id=110

maxxis Minion DHR UST (rear 26x2.50) http://www.maxxis.com/products/bicycle/product_detail.asp?id=266

or

continental Vertical UST (front 26x2.3) http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/tires/mtb/vertical/vertical_en.html

continental Digga 2.5 UST (rear 26x2.5) http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/tires/mtb/digga/digga_en.html

i like how the fronts for both makers have "sidebiter lugs" for steering and i like how both rear tires are "directional" type tire for better forward traction.
is there also a problem with the fronts being 60+\- Durometer and the rears being 40+\- Durometer and is it a problem with having a thinner front tire (2.3) and a wider rear (2.5)

thanks again for you help guy/gals ill get the hang of it soon

 

[dirtydirtysouf]

well i picked up a set of continental Vertical UST (front/rear 26x2.3) for my gary fisher........and im glad i didnt go wider in the rear, that 2.3 is pretty close to rubbing the lower rear tire mount area.........

but the cool thing is that i went from pumping the single ply tires and tubs up to 60-65psi to pumping the UST's and tubs to 48psi and have a very very nice ride.........

thanks for your help guys/gals...............this will be my setup for awhile till i decide to go STANS or tubbless rims

later

 

[w00dy]

I have a maxxis highroller that I've never flatted with. It's got the extra heavy sidewall insert business going on. One of those on the rear should do the trick.http://www.maxxis.com/products/bicycle/product_detail.asp?id=80

 

[dirtydirtysouf]

I have a maxxis highroller that I've never flatted with. It's got the extra heavy sidewall insert business going on. One of those on the rear should do the trick.http://www.maxxis.com/products/bicycle/product_detail.asp?id=80

yea i was looking at those also but the LBS told me to stay away from 2.5 tires cause it wouldnt fit on my fisher advance, and they were right.....my 2.3 is pretty close to rubbing now

 

[stinkyboy]

I'm 6'1", 220 and have loved Minions for the past year. I run 2.5's on my freeride bike, but at your size, the 2.5's might be good for XC too.

I run Slimed Maxxis downhill tubes, and have seen people either love or hate the Stan's setup.