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canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
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If she breaks it, she takes the blame for it. I'm trying to find a really big parking lot with no lights. I think the Arapahoe Community College lot is my best option for learning, but I'll need to find one for donuts still.
Have you done a clutch replacement yet?

Whats that smell in the air? :busted:

Fun fact: I purchased a manual car, without knowing how to drive it. I learned pretty damn quick... I think anyone can do it, as long as they aren't afraid of hurting the car. The timid and super nervous drivers will be the bad ones to learn, you can't half ass the clutch and expect it to be smooth.

Hill starts still make me nervous, if someone is right on my ass. Even more so in the Subaru compared to other cars; the damn hill assist feature only activates if you follow the procedure of putting the clutch in, sticking it in first, all while pressing the brake harder than you actually need to.

I still avoid parking in spots that require me to back out, up a hill. Yep I'm a pussy.
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
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I learned to drive a clutch when I was in my early teens, it was in a farm truck and I had to sit on the very edge of the seat in order to engage the clutch. The steering wheel sometimes blocked my vision.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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Handbrake
Find bite point
Release handbrake
???
Profit
There's enough torque that she only needs to slowly let up the clutch. It's more so about getting her comfortable with listening to the car and multitasking to drive.
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Riding the baggage carousel.
I learned to drive a clutch when I was in my early teens, it was in a farm truck and I had to sit on the very edge of the seat in order to engage the clutch. The steering wheel sometimes blocked my vision.
I learned to drive in a very similar fashion. My best friend growing up had grandparents with a pretty large farm in Strathmore. When we were about 8 or 9 we spent a week on the farm and were given free reign of the place as long as we stayed off the highway. We started on a ancient John Deere 70 with a hand clutch. When I ran it into the silo Nick's grandpa gave us an old GMC automatic pickup instead. I would't learn to properly drive a manual until I was 17.

Edit: Even screwier than I remember it.

 
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6thElement

Schrodinger's Immigrant
Jul 29, 2008
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There's enough torque that she only needs to slowly let up the clutch. It's more so about getting her comfortable with listening to the car and multitasking to drive.
My response was directed more at @canadmos and his ability to hill start in a manual transmission :D
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
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In a van.... down by the river
Ha. I grew up on a farm, so got to drive all sorts of primitive clutched vehicles. Hand clutch Farmall and John Deere tractors, an old 8N (?) Ford, shitty old pickups with 3 on the tree... hell, I think my old man's Valiant had a steering column shifter too.

The John Deere riding lawn mower was probably the most civilized of all of them.
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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how do you fit both a house and a yard on a lot that small?
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This lot is actually pretty big for our neighborhood. We chose it so that we'd have a non-negligible back yard, and now I get to pay the price for that choice.
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
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Literal answer:



This lot is actually pretty big for our neighborhood. We chose it so that we'd have a non-negligible back yard, and now I get to pay the price for that choice.
sucks. when wife and i were looking, we rarely bothered looking at anything around 4/10 acre.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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Literal answer:



This lot is actually pretty big for our neighborhood. We chose it so that we'd have a non-negligible back yard, and now I get to pay the price for that choice.
Want an extra electric mower? I have a spare as I decided to hate nature and get a gas.
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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Want an extra electric mower? I have a spare as I decided to hate nature and get a gas.
I, too, have decided to hate nature and get a gas powered something or other. Currently trying to talk the wife into a lawn tractor since they're not that much more expensive than the Honda self-propelled one I'd want otherwise. Plus I could mount a tiny snow plow blade on it for kicks. :D
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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I, too, have decided to hate nature and get a gas powered something or other. Currently trying to talk the wife into a lawn tractor since they're not that much more expensive than the Honda self-propelled one I'd want otherwise. Plus I could mount a tiny snow plow blade on it for kicks. :D
pro tip: plows generally also require chains
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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And farm-style wheel weights, no? Realistically I don't really have the room to store it. I should really just pay some Juan to mow the lawn...
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,965
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Colorado
I, too, have decided to hate nature and get a gas powered something or other. Currently trying to talk the wife into a lawn tractor since they're not that much more expensive than the Honda self-propelled one I'd want otherwise. Plus I could mount a tiny snow plow blade on it for kicks. :D
Isn't your lawn podunk?
 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
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Point. Clearly he needs to learn how to e-brake. If I could figure it out in SF with a V8 CJ-7 with no e-brake, he can figure it out in a WRX.
I've never tried the e-brake trick. I just get a good parking spot and avoid the entire situation. :brows:

Its just something about going backwards, uphill, in tight confines around other cars and peoples that sketches me out.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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Colorado
I've never tried the e-brake trick. I just get a good parking spot and avoid the entire situation. :brows:

Its just something about going backwards, uphill, in tight confines around other cars and peoples that sketches me out.
It's pretty dummy proof. It's not like you're at risk of spinning the tires due to lack of traction.
 
I had a John Deere Model B with a stick clutch for a number of years. Starting was by reefing the flywheel by hand, keep your thumb out of the way of the housing...

At some point managed to get the damn thing with one wheel backed up against one of the poles on our pole barn, sort of panicked with the wheel trying to climb the pole, but hit the clutch and things calmed down.

I could get the old girl started even when the weather hit minus thirty F...
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
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I, too, have decided to hate nature and get a gas powered something or other. Currently trying to talk the wife into a lawn tractor since they're not that much more expensive than the Honda self-propelled one I'd want otherwise. Plus I could mount a tiny snow plow blade on it for kicks. :D
I saw a guy killing it today on a stand up mower, that thing was dancing!
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
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I took the GT out for an afternoon spin and was schooled by a guy climbing on a single speed hardtail, as he passed me he said you got a make it hurt, assured him I was hurting. I still tried to chase him back up to the car park, he gained a quarter mile on me in less than a mile. I was pleased not to be walking anything... tomorrow I'm going to take my 02 XTC hardtail with the Ardents and do some hill repeats until my quads burn, my old Giant is the best climber I've ever had. I haven't spun the Ardents yet, curious to see how they work for me.
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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Why not get a plug in electric? Much lighter, more power, cheaper (?)
My solution: pay neighborhood high schooler $25 to tend the grounds mow the lawns each week. He has his own mower and I get to help fund his private pilot's license (and don't have to mow!).
 

Full Trucker

Frikkin newb!!!
Feb 26, 2003
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Exit, CO
Officially one week into #funemployment and it's going pretty dang alright. Been on a few dates, gotten irreparably drunk, and ridden awesome rides in Fruita and Salida. STILL waiting on my Canadian buddy to sort out if he's breaking up with his girlfriend or not so we can plan this BC trip.