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Turner DHR question?

Li'l Dave

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So I think I'm SOL on the Demo 8 and 9's, but I think that a Turner DHR looks rather sexy to me. My question is are most riders in the 5'9" range riding a small or medium bike? Turner doesn't have their effective top tubes listed on their website, so I have no idea what sizes are. I sat on Acadian's DHR at Sandhill, but I don't remember for the life of me what size it was. Also, how is the brake jack situation on the new DHR's? Thanks.




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Medium I'd think.

I'll agree, they do look sexy, it was the next bike I thought about getting, maybe next year or so :)
 

kidwoo

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I'm 5'8" and ride a medium.

Actually I felt like mine definitely had some squat and didn't work as well braking when I first got on it after riding Karpiels for a few years. I put a lighter spring on and haven't had any complaints. I'm 165 and use a 350lb spring.
 

oly

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Im 5'10" and also rock the Medium DHR. I also took the advice from turner and didnt bother with a floater. Ive seen a few with them and have been curious to see what it feels like, but honestly i havent had any reason to upgrade.

Im 240 and use the 550 spring.
 

go-ride.com

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Oct 23, 2001
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IMO the DHR is the better bike. I rode both the D8 & D9 at Interbike and neither had as good of suspension as the DHR.

Medium is right for 5'9" unless you like a bmx bike feel.
 
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interesting...I would think that the DHR may be a better handling bike but the D8, being FSR would carry speed over rough terrain a little better and pedal through rough stuff better...

Think the SPV shock on the d8 might have something to do with its performance (I personally think Swingers don't perform that well compared to a DHX/PUSH/ROMIC etc)
 

oly

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5'10" seems to be the magic height. Most bikes ive seen have 5'10" on both large and medium. it comes down to how you really like to have your bike.... longer, or shorter....
 

toodles

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kidwoo said:
I'm 5'8" and ride a medium.

I'm 165 and use a 350lb spring.
That's not with a Romic right? I'm 175 (~80 kg) and I'm running the stock 550lb spring. Maybe I should find a softer one...


PS. I'm 5'10 and I ride a Med.
 

Juano

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go-ride.com said:
IMO the DHR is the better bike. I rode both the D8 & D9 at Interbike and neither had as good of suspension as the DHR.

Medium is right for 5'9" unless you like a bmx bike feel.

That's not true, more of a personal taste if you ask me.

I raced the DHR and the Demo and they both have they pros.

The DHR is quick and nimble and light without trying but the Demo takes hits better, has a stiffer rear end and doesn't have brake jack at all. It is a little heavier but when your riding you can't tell, it rides real light. The DHR is a bike that I liked cause it suited my style, over the front, but once I got used to the demo off the back style I started to love it more.

But it all comes down to personal taste and style. Both bikes are money for sure.
 

bizutch

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I'm 5'9" with short legs and ride the medium DHR. if you want a quick rear end, you could actually go with the small DHR and rake the front end out or run a 888. wheelbase on small with 888 45", medium with 888 46"
 

Fury

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I'm almost 5'11" and I ride a Med. I've considered riding a small for 05 but the DHR's corner really well. You can afford to ride a larger bike for the high speed stability without losing too much whipability (yes it's a word now).
 

Li'l Dave

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I'm SOL on the Demo 8 and Demo 8 pro because the first order of them that will be coming out in December is 100% prepaid for. Specialized told me that there is a chance on the Demo 9's, but I would have to have money to them by the end of the week (today)! I would still consider trying to buy a used demo 9, but I haven't found one person selling a small, everyone seems to be selling their mediums. I still have a little bit of time before I am able to buy a new bike, I still need to sell my Orange to be able to pay for anything.
 

buildyourown

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Li'l Dave said:
I'm SOL on the Demo 8 and Demo 8 pro because the first order of them that will be coming out in December is 100% prepaid for. Specialized told me that there is a chance on the Demo 9's, but I would have to have money to them by the end of the week (today)! I would still consider trying to buy a used demo 9, but I haven't found one person selling a small, everyone seems to be selling their mediums. I still have a little bit of time before I am able to buy a new bike, I still need to sell my Orange to be able to pay for anything.

They were selling '04 demo 9s for super cheap new at some dealers.
 
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Well, I'm definately the oddball hear. I'm 6'3 and rode a medium most of last season. I loved it. But I like small frames. I was talking to the Team Turner riders and one of the younger guys is 6'1" and rides a small.

I rode a large Foes DHS the season before and I decide to go with the medium DHR because it's dimensions where almost identical to the large Foes. Foes do tend to run small. But the large was designed for someone my size. I would'nt go by any formula for a downhill bike. You should really size a downhill bike on riding style and terrain rather then what supposedly "FITS". Basically, smaller will be snappier and work best in the twisty stuff and by more flickable. Large will be more stable but not as nimble.

If you tend to ride with your weight over the front tire a lot, then you might want to stay away from a smaller frame. Because if you get to much weight on the front tire in soft turns, your tire will tend to dig in and send you flyin'

In regards to the floater. My Foes came with the floating brake which is basically stock on all DHS's and I was most worried about switching to the Turner because of the dreaded "Brake Jack". With the Turner the rear end actually squats slightly on braking which is great on steep chutes and tend to get your CG lower coming into turns, then as you let off the brake as you initiate your turn the bike seems to come out of the turn with more snap. Personally I think a floater would take away this desireable characteristic. Any stiffening of suspension was not noticible to me compared to my Foes. But maybe I'm just not as in tune with my suspension as others.
 

Mumbles

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i'm 5'-7" and i ride a small. i'm JUST on the border though. a medium would defintely be too big for me. the efective TT on the small is 23" i believe.
 

toodles

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kidwoo said:
Romic
Fox Vanilla RC (propedal)
Fox Vanilla Dh

All 350lb springs.
I knew my bike was oversprung for me but it didn't seem that bad. I was headed for maybe a 500lb spring instead of the stock 550. Might try something softer then.
 

toodles

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ChainWhip said:
Toodles-

We're about the same weight and I run a 450lbs/in spring.
Excellent, that's what I might try then.

Is the Ti spring on Acadian's Romic a one-off or are they available somewhere?
 

tne

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I have a #350 ti spring for Romic for sale on the 'buy and sell'.

I'm 5'8 and my 04 DHR was a medium.
 

oly

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zane said:
I hear rave reviews about the DHR for racing, but how do they ride for drops/stunt riding?
My DHR did better at whistler off drops than my Scream did. (GLC, Aline, ect) I think mostly from the real progressive link, and lower leverage ratio. Ive yet to take it to the shore, but have been on some tight techy trail and i loved it.
 
oly said:
My DHR did better at whistler off drops than my Scream did. (GLC, Aline, ect) I think mostly from the real progressive link, and lower leverage ratio. Ive yet to take it to the shore, but have been on some tight techy trail and i loved it.
Ditto that on Oly - I came from a Foes Fly to a DHR and have the same experience... Whistler, Shore, etc., - my DHR seems to have been better than my old Foes.

Caveat: Could be the DHR's geometry suits my tastes/riding style better? Regardless, this really depends on each person's riding style/etc.,
 

zane

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Is the DHR more slack in the frontend than other bikes? How about CS length? (in regards to manuals & turning radius)
 

buildyourown

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zane said:
Is the DHR more slack in the frontend than other bikes? How about CS length? (in regards to manuals & turning radius)
It should be noted that the CSs feel shorter than they measure. I have always been a fan of short rear ends but I also like the Turner. The CS measurement was what initially kept me from getting one. After I rode my GF's, I decided that I wanted one too.
 

zane

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Thanks for the info, I'm highly considering a DHR for my next frame. I know they're pretty high priced in the used bike market- that's the only downside I can see.

Edit-

Does it turn pretty well in the skinny stuff? I've ridden some race bikes on shore stuff, and the back wheel would always track WAAAY to the inside on tight ladder turns due to the long wheel base. Does the DHR feel this way?
 
zane said:
Thanks for the info, I'm highly considering a DHR for my next frame. I know they're pretty high priced in the used bike market- that's the only downside I can see.

Edit-

Does it turn pretty well in the skinny stuff? I've ridden some race bikes on shore stuff, and the back wheel would always track WAAAY to the inside on tight ladder turns due to the long wheel base. Does the DHR feel this way?
I just came back from the Shore this past weekend and the bike did fine on skinny's - I'll just stick to the bikes I know:

1) Foes Fly (my last bike - a "supposed" Freeride Bike) has a wheelbase of 45.8" on a Medium Frame (http://www.foesracing.com/product.cfm?view=tech for spec's).

2) Turner DHR has wheelbase of 45.6" (Medium Frame as well).

3) Rocky Mountain RMX has a wheelbase of 44.8" (Medium Frame - Spec's here: http://www.bikes.com/bikes/2005/rmx/rmx-r3.aspx)

Hope that helps. PM if you need more help.