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Turner Rail - Build complete, pics attached

Fury

Monkey
Oct 9, 2002
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Toronto, Canada
Finally finished the build on my Turner Rail and is it ever fun! This is the first time in my life I've owned more than 1 bike and today I loved every minute of it (always just a DH bike) - we rode single track for more than 3 hours. I have some tweaking to do to get it setup right for me but I had a blast today and I can't wait to take it out again! If anyone has any questions about the build ask away.
 

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Fury

Monkey
Oct 9, 2002
739
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Toronto, Canada
I had a laid-back post on it so I was a bit far back when I raised the seat but it was still lots of fun. As for 4X and Jumps, time will tell but it is when the frame was designed for.
 

redical

Monkey
May 19, 2004
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It is s small, right? It looks tiny. DO you have it on the 3.5 or 4.5" travel setting? What is your fork on? Reason I ask is that it looks kind of shoppered. Rails are kick ass bikes.
 

Fury

Monkey
Oct 9, 2002
739
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Toronto, Canada
The fork was set to 5". Yeah, it does look a bit choppered in that pic but it didn't feel like it - besides, I'm used to riding my DHR.
 

sama1ter

Monkey
Apr 29, 2004
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The OC
how is this bike for trail riding? im looking to build up a trail bike to fit between my DH and DJ/Urban/4x bike
 

Fury

Monkey
Oct 9, 2002
739
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Toronto, Canada
The Rail was designed for 4X but it's a bit too durable (i.e. heavy) for world cup 4X racing. It's become a DJ/urban/4x-for-the-masses frame. If you're looking for a trail bike specific frame I'd look more at the 5 Spot as that is what it was intended for.

I plan to use my Rail for everything other than DH (trail, 4x, dj) but if I could afford 3 bikes I'd definitely choose a 5Spot (or a Flux) for a trail bike.
 

Fury

Monkey
Oct 9, 2002
739
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Toronto, Canada
I got asked a question outside the forum but I'll put it and the answer up because I think it's worthwile.

The inside hole of the e13 (where it slides over the BB cup) isn't large enough to fit over the Shimano outboard bearings cup. I just put it in a vice and filed a tiny bit of material off and it slid right on. I'm not sure what width the spindle is on the XT cranks but it's a little too wide for this setup. To line it up properly with the guide I had to space the backplate out from the frame with 2 washers. The chain rubs on the backplate in the easier gears but it's nothing substantial. If anyone has a fix for this please let me know.
 

redical

Monkey
May 19, 2004
388
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The only way it seems to have perfect chain & guide lines are with cranks like the Profiles where you can float them in or out on the spindle with 1 mm spacers. When I had e-13 look at my guide set-up for the same kind of problem you are having, they said that slight chain rub on the upper slider plastic on a new guide is okay. Eventually it will wear away and spin smoother. They rather see some rub than too much spacing & risk dropping a chain. While you are fiddling around down there, you may want to check out your chainring to bottom slider pulley wheel alignment. This section being out of wack will wreak more havoc on your chain spin (and cause shift & derrailment problems.)
 

sama1ter

Monkey
Apr 29, 2004
665
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The OC
Fury said:
I got asked a question outside the forum but I'll put it and the answer up because I think it's worthwile.

The inside hole of the e13 (where it slides over the BB cup) isn't large enough to fit over the Shimano outboard bearings cup. I just put it in a vice and filed a tiny bit of material off and it slid right on. I'm not sure what width the spindle is on the XT cranks but it's a little too wide for this setup. To line it up properly with the guide I had to space the backplate out from the frame with 2 washers. The chain rubs on the backplate in the easier gears but it's nothing substantial. If anyone has a fix for this please let me know.
I just installed an e13 on my saints today, and what i did was instead of having a bearing spacer(i have a 68 width bb) on either side of the frame, i took the one out of the left side, put one behind the guide and one behind the crank. Works fantastic.
 

Fury

Monkey
Oct 9, 2002
739
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Toronto, Canada
redical said:
The only way it seems to have perfect chain & guide lines are with cranks like the Profiles where you can float them in or out on the spindle with 1 mm spacers. When I had e-13 look at my guide set-up for the same kind of problem you are having, they said that slight chain rub on the upper slider plastic on a new guide is okay. Eventually it will wear away and spin smoother. They rather see some rub than too much spacing & risk dropping a chain. While you are fiddling around down there, you may want to check out your chainring to bottom slider pulley wheel alignment. This section being out of wack will wreak more havoc on your chain spin (and cause shift & derrailment problems.)
The ring and guard are lined up perfectly with the backplate which is why I'm satisfied. It rubs a bit but it's okay, no problems with skipping :thumb:
 

BikeFan84

Monkey
Oct 27, 2004
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D-Ville
That frame is F-ing awesome, Does anyone know if Turner has any left, I know that they are not making them next year. If anyone knows you will save me a phone call. Can you put coil-over shocks on it>? :p