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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by thom9719, Apr 5, 2013.
Just got this letter from the UCI a few minutes ago.
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And USA cycling's response:
So basically, no pro riders (not just trade teams) are allowed to race anything other than USA cycling races.
Am I understanding correctly that they want payment retroactively for independent races?
Yea I am not sure I understand this. First, is this an april fools joke?
Second, how is this enforced? For instance, if the old US Open were around or the current Canadian open at Crankworx, these are non-sanctioned races. Who is the UCI and USA Cycling to say we cant race that or they will charge a Fee. If its non-sanctioned how will they even know? Are they hiring people to scour the earth searching for unsanctioned mountain bike events and then charging USA Cycling members for being a part of it? Isnt this what communists and dictators do? where is the god damn democracy. This is Merica, no ****ing A in there, just good ole fat capitalist Merica.
What I find funny about this is that this is a rule that only effects a few, but pisses off every single racer of all categories. And to be honest, the only racers who currently NEED the UCI/USA cycling are top pros who want to race at world cups or Jr. Ex kids who are trying to turn pro and race at world cups. Otherwise they are actually quite useless.
have some rep, I agree wholeheartedly.
While this may directly affect a few UCI pros, it has far reaching implications in stifling independent non sanctioned events in several ways, they now wont be able to draw headline pros to bring visibility to their event, they may be forced to subject themselves to the bureaucracy and inefficiency of USAC who just want to reach into their pockets. Also they look like greedy empirical twats to masses of riders for not allowing the sport to grow and evolve organically.
It also includes any master that wants to compete at the Masters Worlds.
Hmmmmm . . . wonder how the ruling is going to affect pro participation at CrankWorx?
I think the fine or penalty is minor and honestly most of the headline athletes will have this penalty budgeted. But it goes back to moral, you piss everyone off even though the affect is minor. I am for instance a working class, race pro on the weekends as a hobby, have raced WC but probably wont be anymore just do to my job and moving on with life sort of speak. If I want to go race for fun, with a bunch of guys out there for the same reason, why should we be penalized for it. we already pay double for our annual licenses and we already pay on average 10-15 dollars more for each entry fee than lower classes. and again, why stir the masses.
Man, what a racket. The really sick part of all of this is how incredibly transparent it all is.....
The gravity side of this sport needs to free itself of the UCI and USACycling. The main problem that I see with this proposal is that the IOC/UCI/National Federations have the ability of sanctioning other cycling disciplines as a means of leverage and market control. This is probably the biggest hurdle that needs addressing.
I've wondered a bit about the feasibility of creating a for-profit business model as a plausible counter measure to the current system. Something akin to how traditional sport franchising behaves, but at an international level. It would have to require a fairly lean and well thought out business plan/model in order to be sustainable. I'll preface that my thoughts are fairly preliminary and I haven't thought through all the traps, but my suspicion is that the biggest challenge in making something like this plausible is advertising revenue. Another huge trap that I see is the time aspect. It would need to be proven as profitable and sustainable at a local level before growing, however the US and it's size does lend itself to being a great beta test site.....
the thing is, this does affect the average Joe as UCI/Ntl Federations are trying to leverage the pro angle into forcing events to sanction, which means average Joe now has to buy an overpriced f-ing licence to a federation that doesn't really do anything to promote r enhance the sport and sucks the soul out of it more or less. It drives up costs for the regular folk and ends up stifling progression. It's a turf war and they're coming out firing.
You should check out what Chris Ball is doing with EMBA. Seems like it's working. According to this at least: http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Opinion-The-Enduro-World-Series-DH1-and-Pissing-in-the-Drinking-.html
Steve Peat attend a grassroots race we organized as a fundraiser in England. It was an awesome event and everyone loved it. Would hate to see stuff like that disappear because of this silly rule.
The bottom line for me is this:
I race my bike because it’s fun and I enjoy it. I’m not going to let a corrupt organization tell me I can’t enjoy my favorite activity. While I'm not winning wold cups, I will be racing in unsanctioned races this year.
In all the non usac races I race this year, I will now be known as "Ron."
Here is my jersey:
I like this idea. I think every racer needs a non-UCI race name.
HOW TO FIGURE OUT YOUR UNSANCTIONED RACER NAME(i may have stole this from somewhere):
First name = the name of your first pet
Last name= the street name you grew up on
I will from now on be racing as "Trigger Foothill".
You can call me Buster 62...
I'll be racing as "BadA$$ M*thaF*cka". Yes, my dog's name is BadA$$ and I live on...............Lane.
OMG, are you Roy Rogers? I thought you were dead.
Hahaha, Nope. I was just super unimaginative when I was 5 and my first "pet" fish looked like a freshwater version of a trigger fish.
My dad made the same joke and I didn't really figure it out until I was older.
I thought it meant they would give 2012 non sanctioned races a discount for 2013 if they went sanctioned. Kind of a way encourage everyone to join up.
How do they budget a one month suspension for each non-sanctioned race?
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Oh man, I just became Chelsea Meadowdale. This is gonna be weird.
On a serious note, f*ck those guys.
<<<Trooper Jefferson needs to get his resume sorted out
I don't think anything about me ISN'T weird.
I swear I'm not trying.
I recommend racers use the name Jim Burns.
Looks like I'm officialy Tiny MudCut.
Dog was a St. Bernard. Road was literally a muddy groove before it was paved.
Can relate. Road in to my place still only has three seasons: Snow, Mud, Dust. Chinese are thanking me for all the pit run I hauled in.
Looks like i'll be the highest mother****er on the course. Doobie Macks.
I am waiting to see a Harvey Mushman in a race soon.
Maggot Butcher crashing violently in the first 20 metres!
I have always kept an assumed name from my taxi driving days. Rich Olson
Dibs on Snake Plissken.
F the UCI/USAC. I'm doing an unsanctioned race today. They can shove 50 francs up their ass if they try to suspend me for a month. Yes, I'm a UCI international pro. The race is at Paul Turner's house so I'll mention this to him.
UCI sinked to a new low,this is rediculous & it makes me angry
Quote from an awesome xc racer who can also ride the piss out of his bike;
Sho-Air/Cannondale's Jeremiah Bishop, current leader of the men's Pro XCT, former World Cup racer and endurance race lover, said, "Comment on USAC that THEY should stand up to the UCI on ruling all UCI riders will face bans and Fines for doing non USAC races. This is America! We invented the sport so there are a multitude of races organizations and groups that pre date the UCI and many reasons that this rule is not compatible with USA racing."
Your speling and grammer has sunked to a new low and makes my head hurt.
This isn't going to end well for USAC.