building space ports instead?sanjuro said:considering the Federal Govt forces states to legalize the drinking age by withholding highway money, it is pretty obvious what they are doing...
building space ports instead?sanjuro said:considering the Federal Govt forces states to legalize the drinking age by withholding highway money, it is pretty obvious what they are doing...
Good point. We should raise the gun ownership age to 21.Silver said:Can an 18 year old legally buy a gun in the US?
Since when are coke, meth and gunplay legal for anyone 21 and older?sanjuro said:Good one. I use the same argument for legalizing cocaine, crystal meth, and gunplay
I'm not sure which to which post you're referring or what your point is.sanjuro said:YOU left out the part of the quote that underage drinking laws force juveniles not to seek treatment for alcohol poisoning....
That's like saying, "my friend got shot when we robbed a grocery story, but we didn't go the hospital because we committed a crime". (which did happen in my neighborhood, and his co-horts in crime let their friend die).ohio said:I law which INTENDS to protect teenagers. The reality is it protects no one, makes young ADULTS much less likely to obtain emergency help for, say, alcohol poisoning
But, for ****s and giggles, we're going to make it even harder for them for ideological reasons based on neurosis and falsehoods. Great.sanjuro said:If teenagers binge drink, you would hope they would take their friend to hospital, no matter what the consequences.
Wrong.sanjuro said:The real issue with the 21 drinking age is driving. 18-24 years have the worst driving record
Your point is irrelevant, owing to the fact that if drinking ages were lowered, teenage alcohol abuse would significantly decrease. And that little criminal detail when idiots take 10 shots of 151 in 15 minutes.sanjuro said:What is the penalty for teenage alcohol poisoning?
Because they vote and have money, unlike your age group.blue said:Oh, that's right...it's hard as **** to marginalize the senior population...
I can't believe people actually do that...Chunky Munkey said:Welp! I'd love to sit here and post some more discussing todays politics but it IS friday night, and I gotta go work out to get the pecs and tri's pumped up along with the biceps so I can go out to the club later impressing the ladies with my big guns and excersize my American right to consume alcohol like a Conehead.
Dan Ackroid, here's to you my good man, Cheers!
No no...voting doesn't count...they have the AARP. And Money. Take away their licenses and deny them the right to alcohol. I'm going to make a powerful ally in my crusade.stevew said:Because they vote and have money, unlike your age group.
How about this, who has the highest insurance premiums?blue said:Wrong.
65+ has the worst driving record amongst all age groups. I've seen drunk seniors leave restaurants, keys in hand. Why not cap the drinking age, while we're out there protecting the populace, eh Sanj?
Oh, that's right...it's hard as **** to marginalize the senior population...
You mean working out, or the drinking part?Changleen said:I can't believe people actually do that...
Like getting "BLUE in the face?"The Kadvang said:I approve of getting fvcking tanked as ****. Word.
That's the spirit son, approved.The Kadvang said:I approve of getting fvcking tanked as ****. Word.
The reason every state has a 21 drinking age is because the federal government will withold federal highway funding from states that do not comply.sanjuro said:<snip> But teenage drivers are the worst statistically, and that is part of the reason why every state has a 21 drinking age.<snip>
The federal role in financing
The dominant role of the federal government in road finance has enabled it to achieve legislative goals which fall outside its power to regulate interstate commerce as enumerated in the federal Constitution. By threatening to withhold highway funds, the federal government has been able to stimulate state legislatures to pass a variety of laws. Although some object on the ground that this infringes on states' rights, the Supreme Court has upheld this practice as a permissible use of the Constitution's Commerce Clause.
The first major example was the introduction of the 55 mph (90 km/h) national speed limit in 1974. While this was done to save fuel in the wake of the 1973 energy crisis, federal speed controls stayed in effect for 21 years. The initial acceptance of the national speed limit emboldened various Presidents and Congresses to enact additional pieces of legislation, some of which have nothing to do with highways or transportaion. Examples include:
Increasing the legal drinking age to 21.
Megan's Law legislation, requring states to disclose identities of sex offenders.
Lowering the legal intoxication level to 0.08%.
States must also meet minimum enforcement standards for all federally-mandated legislation (for example, minimum penalties for violation of these laws and a minimum number of per capita underage drinking convictions or a very compelling explanation regarding why this number is not met). This has proved to be controversial. Those who support this feel that it is a way to provide an impetus to states to pass uniform legislation. Others feel that using highway dollars in this fashion has upset the balance between federal and states rights in favor of the federal government, and effectively holds funds as ransom in order to coerce state governments into passing laws that would not have otherwised been introduced. Some have even argued that the current arrangement is unconstitutional. Law enforcement agencies in some states argue that efforts to meet quotas for underage drinking convictions have distracted them from other matters and strained relations with those under 21. Any state which were to lose federal highway funding would quickly face deteriorating infrastructure, fiscal impoverishment, or both.
Of course, a state which lost federal highway funding could theoretically threaten to stop maintaining its highways, if that were politically palatable to its residents.
Yeh! About that federal funding of money for the roads, HOW THE HECK are all us drunk drivers supposed to drive a straight line home with all those pot holes throwin is off!?The reason every state has a 21 drinking age is because the federal government will withold federal highway funding from states that do not com
Get the puking in your sleep over with at an early age...MMike said:I'd rather have the drinking age at 16 and the driving age at 18... let kids get used to it.
I am of the opinion that that is why the frat houses and all of that have so many problems. Here the drinking age is 18. By the time kids are in university, (here) they've had plenty of hangovers and puked on themselves, and and had to stagger home to face mom and dad. Presumably they learn (sometimes) to better control themselves. In the US, you ship a high school grad off to live on his own, (usually) for the fisrt time. No parents, no authorities....and hey... what's this stuff everyone is drinking?...ooooh I feel funny.... It's too much new stuff all at once....
I could have died you know....Da Peach said:Get the puking in your sleep over with at an early age...
Yeah sure, but like a ROCKSTAR!!!!MMike said:I could have died you know....
I just noticed this remark from a while back. I like your way of thinking Mike. You're swaying my opinion away from what everyone has told me about you.MMike said:I'd rather have the drinking age at 16 and the driving age at 18... let kids get used to it.