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Discussion in 'Politics & World News' started by syadasti, Jan 30, 2010.
so syadisti, what food IS safe to eat?
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Totally OT but a pet peeve....
Why do people say tuna and add fish - tunafish.
We do not say chicken and add fowl or bird chickenpoultry or chickenbird.
nor have I ever heard beefbovine or porkswine or porkboar....
just a wonderin'
so kale from a can?
Being pedantic is Syadasti's job.
ah mercury, sweetest of the transition metals
if we're lucky all the flooding will cause an earthquake and they'll all fall into the ocean.
My god these folks are dumb as hell, read the comments. (bet you can't keep a straight face)
I hope the state takes all those kids.
I know two anti-vaccers. They are the two biggest druggies I know, they will consume any mind altering substance without question or knowing the origins, or manufacturing process. Heavily regulated medications, nope. They also refuse to drink fluoridated water.
Not sure if this belongs here, but I found it interesting. in the context of the flu vaccine only.
There's also a ton of different types of immunizations for the flu - tri, quad, nasal(live), intradermal, made from bugs or dogs, etc, etc. Each of these vary on their efficacy and can't be generalized from one study.
Also the information about egg allergies and flu vaccines is typically wrong (even egg based vaccines) according to allergy experts:
50/50 I guess.
I blame @AngryMetalsmith
Not me, that's some Asheville super weirdness right there. I knew of a musician there who would periodically eat rancid meat as a way to clean his system. Nope, uh, uh, fuck that place !!
I just have a feeling that she was one of those "Fake Science" folks who did not get Vaccinated for the Flu
The conservative US writer and commentator Bre Payton has died at the age of 26 after falling ill.
A friend, Morgan Murtaugh, found her unconscious on Thursday. She died in hospital where she was found to be suffering from H1N1 flu and meningitis.
Was she an anti-vaxer by chance?
Did a very quick look, but didn't want to wade through all of the condolences..
Jeezus... schaedenfreude bonanza right there...except she died. That definitely lessens it.
Karma, you beautiful bitch!
^ well I called that one....
No kids, so she stayed out of the gene pool. I call it a push.
Hell that's a major win in my book
I was trying to be polite. Jerk.......
I'm fully vaccinated against all the regular stuff but I don't get flu shots cause I don't get sick. The flu "vaccine" is only sometimes effective and anyone who thinks Pharma isn't behind the push to legally mandate flu vaccines for more and more people is just fooling themselves.
If you're elderly or caring for those with weak immune systems, go for it, but I don't think it's any more than a money grab convincing average healthy people that they need this every year.
The epidemic early in the 20th century did not respect age. Do what you want, live or die accordingly...
And stay home in the winter so I don't get infected.
Oh yee of little scientific deduction.
The only theories that explain why that flu was so deadly revolve around assuming that it was genetically much different than the flu virus that had circulated during the decades preceding 1918. From what scientists have reconstructed, the 1918 "Spanish Flu" was similar to the modern flu viruses we experience today. The only reason the virus would have such devastating effects was due to low levels of immunity.
So lets assume a flu virus that is genetically much different than those we have experienced in our lifetimes appears. There are two outcomes with relation to the flu vaccines that we currently use.
1. The flu vaccine includes the new virus because scientists discovered it early and quickly developed a vaccine. As unlikely as this is (it took almost 6 months for a vaccine for the swine flu to become widely available after the initial outbreaks) this would mean that the medical community was aware of the virus before it became a pandemic. Which would mean I would be aware of the new virus because I pay attention. I would then weigh the benefits of getting a vaccine and if I thought it was important I would get vaccinated. For example, I traveled to Mexico several times after the Swine Flu outbreaks and when there was a vaccine available I got it.
2. The much more likely scenario is that there will not be a vaccine when this new virus hits and I won't have an option so good luck to us all.
Additionally the facts seem to indicate that the Spanish Flu would have been susceptible to modern anti-virals commonly administered to deal with the flu so if I do get this new unforeseen flu I can just take some anti-virals and be good to go in a few days. If a new flu that doesn't respond to anti viral medication shows up I'd consider getting a vaccine.
In any case, for now, I'll continue to rely on my natural immunity and general good health to protect me from the flu, the cold, foot fungus, and other generally non fatal heath concerns. Older folks like yourself definitely want to get a flu shot though.
If I have kids or survive the flu long enough to get old I will probably get a vaccine.
I just like to push back against the folks who lump the flu vaccine in with the polio vaccine or the measles vaccine. It's not the same thing at all. The flu will not be wiped out by vaccinating using the current methods, it mutates too fast. It will be around next year and the vaccine may not even do anything to help if they guess the wrong virus to immunize against. And once again I need to emphasize that the flu vaccine is a money bonanza for the pharmaceutical companies. It's a vaccine they claim they have to give everyone every year. The amount of money involved is crazy so if you don't think that every pharmaceutical lobbyist in the country is trying to figure out ways to legally mandate everyone take it every year you're crazy.
Don't worry. You're vaccinated right? You should be fine. Unless it's one of those strains the vaccine didn't protect against, in which case it wouldn't matter if I was vaccinated cause it wouldn't have prevented me from being infected.
and we have an outbreak near portland
Yay for morons!
I look at it like more clorox for the gene pool
Except the victims are generally children that actually don't *have* the choice. The morons are the parents. The whole situation is fucking pitiful.
Where can I buy this shirt?