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US Military Guy in Iraq: "Who's Rumsfeld?"

jimmydean

jimmydean

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I would agree with the idea that a large number of the young enlisted people serving in Iraq have no idea who is where in the upper chain of command.

I know I had no idea who the SOD was when I was serving. But I sure as hell know now.
 
OGRipper

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dirtydirtysouf said:
"If history is any guide, many of the young men who endure the severest hardships and assume the greatest risks in the war in Iraq will become interested in politics and politicians later, when they are older and look back on their combat tours. "

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Yeah right, "interested." As in, "Doh! THAT's what was going on? What the hell was I thinking?"

(But like 'Woo, no disrespect. I hope they all make it back and don't kill too many babies and stuff.)
 
DRB

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kidwoo said:
With all due respect to the troops and all.............

Not knowing who rumsfeld is...
That's fvcking retarded.
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With absolutely no respect towards you, I'd suggest that you shut the fvck up when you are talking about US servicemen on Veteran's Day.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15658220/

Corp. Jason Dunham, a 25-year-old Marine who'd been in Iraq less than six weeks. Attacked by insurgents while inspecting a convoy, he ended up in hand-to-hand combat.

"At one point he yelled to his fellow Marines 'No, no, no, watch his hand!' Moments later an enemy grenade rolled out," Bush said.

"Without a second's hesitation he knew what he needed to do because he saw that grenade was live," says Maj. Trent Gibson. "And he took his helmet off and covered the grenade with it in order to protect his Marines."
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Old Man G Funk

Old Man G Funk

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Silver said:
It should be noted that kidwoo pointed that out YESTERDAY. You may return to your regularly scheduled righteous indignation.
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It's even worse than that because his quote didn't even address the issue. A guy throwing himself on a grenade, while it may be heroic, does nothing to address whether he is retarded for not knowing who his boss is.
 
Reactor

Reactor

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When I was in the military(back when we had black powder flintlocks) we were requires to memorize our chain of command, all the way to the president. I'll bet he was being a smartass, or was physically and mentally exhausted, and trying to think of a guy named rumsfield in his unit. Failing that........
 
Mani_UT

Mani_UT

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Reactor said:
I'll bet he was being a smartass, or was physically and mentally exhausted, and trying to think of a guy named rumsfield in his unit. Failing that........
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I hope you're right otherwise it's really messed up. I think military men owe more than anyone to know who and what they are fighting for otherwise it open the door to all kind of abuse (I should know my dad was one of these sadly uneducated misinformed soldiers who ended up making some very bad war time choices because of blind allegiances to his superiors. Look up OAS and algeria if you want :banghead: .)
 
BikeGeek

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Reactor said:
When I was in the military(back when we had black powder flintlocks) we were requires to memorize our chain of command, all the way to the president. I'll bet he was being a smartass, or was physically and mentally exhausted, and trying to think of a guy named rumsfield in his unit. Failing that........
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Yup. Some guy named Dick Cheney was SecDef when I was in. I'm with you. In a combat situation you are given so much stuff to remember, challenges/passwords, rally points, target lists, call signs for the day (your unit, HQ, fire support, med-evac, etc), etc, that less useful knowledge is replaced. The name of a man you'll most likely never meet, and who isn't directly responsible for watching your back while things are hot isn't going to be readily recalled.
 
JohnE

JohnE

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Front Range, dude...
Thats whats wrong with this country today, paying for the Simpsons. Isnt that a Constitutional right? No man shall be denied his cartoons? Call your Congressman, this isnt Soviet Russia...
 
binary visions

binary visions

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I liked the Simpsons better when they were a little more subtle in their satire.

Past couple episodes have been over-the-top, IMO. Okay, we get it, you don't like the president and you don't like the war in Iraq. If I wanted humor that blatent, I'd turn on South Park or Family Guy/American Dad.

I still watch them religiously, of course, but I'm just sayin' :D
 
Westy

Westy

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kidwoo said:
The extra year of schooling you guys get creates all kinds of mysteries for me. I can only imagine the stuff they teach you ........cold fusion, time travel, the g-spot........
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I think the extra required time is mainly used in English classes to explain the proper usage of "eh".
 
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