US Open Gee Atherton inverted fork
The air valve in the pic of Gee in the start house is probably the hybrid air thatnTrek has been using.
http://www.sicklines.com/reviews/2012-fox-40-fit-rc2/
http://www.sicklines.com/reviews/2012-fox-40-fit-rc2/
Just saw this gem on facebook
allegedly mike levy at the fox factory
allegedly mike levy at the fox factory
hell yeah
see this fork? it's going on the snowmobile back hereJust saw this gem on facebook
allegedly mike levy at the fox factory
I think that looks a hellufalot like the air valve on the treks, not an inverted fork, but who knows, maybe I'm crazy. Maybe shimano fox can introduce a new front hub standard 
again.
So now that aaron gwin is the goto guy on the WC circuit, along with minnaar (who are both on fox) is gee getting kicked to the back of the bus with the testing?
again.So now that aaron gwin is the goto guy on the WC circuit, along with minnaar (who are both on fox) is gee getting kicked to the back of the bus with the testing?
Gee i never thought of that...
I doubt that they will kick back a constant wc title contender. Though you bring an interesting observation. All of the top 3 guys are on Fox. WTF is SRAM thinking?
Could be, that's also a GT bike box second in the line.
fox doesn't need to sponsor riders to get them on their xc forks...SRAM is sponsoring a lot of successful XC racers....in an olympic year....which will get moar TV coverage than any DH event. WTF is Fox thinking???
Just saw that FB post this am, massive...I think the writing is on the wall we will be seeing an Atherton bike with an inverted fox very soon. Who get's the first feature? Dirt? Vital? PB?...
Or some other newcomers with inverted forks.
2013:
marz reintroduces the shiver.
RS introduces an inverted boxxer
fox introduces an inverted 40.
manitou introduces a dorado in the normal configuration with cast magnesium lowers.
marz reintroduces the shiver.
RS introduces an inverted boxxer
fox introduces an inverted 40.
manitou introduces a dorado in the normal configuration with cast magnesium lowers.
for sure, i dont know what the hell im talking about...just calling out the obvious from this photo....
who knows...if they work better then great...go for it
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not for production? that makes me a sad panda.
Wait until the 29er hype really hits the DH world. Then everybody will release a USD fork because it is the only way you can produce a 26" and 29" compatible fork.
what is Manitou doing that Fox cant in terms of torsional stiffness? the Dorado is almost 1/2lb lighter then the 40 as it is now.
I was wondering the exact same thing after reading that article. I would think of any of the "big suspension companies", Fox would be the one w/the deepest pockets and the most resources available to them to figure it out.
maybe nothing? it could be that gee atherton and aaron gwin genuinely appreciate the stiffness of a 40. I know, I'm speculating wildly right now.
Carbon. Not that Fox can't do it... they might just be choosing not to show it to pinkbike.
the last two years of the Dorado havent been made of carbon. only the 2009 was (and the original)
Air spring Vs Coil.
And (maybe) Fox's benchmark of torsional stiffness comes from a 40mm stanchion fork, not whatever Manitou might have used.
are air springs stiffer?
Manitou uses a 36mm leg and i havent heard anyone complain about stiffness on the carbon or the newer aluminum version, though im sure its still not as stiff as the "normal" 40.
i guess fox's requirement could be higher then Manitou's
I think he was suggesting that air springs are lighter, and thus they can spend more weight making it stiffer. I think the pretty obvious answer is that fox has higher requirements for stiffness then manitou, and gwin an atherton are inclined to agree.
Manitou had OUTSIDE help with chassis design BTW.
i still think we will see some version of this fork down the road...just not yet...
Honest question manhattanprjkt83: what are the advantages? The current iteration of the 40 is basically stiction free, they specifically said the damper was the same, barring potential tuning mods for the individual rider (which atherton and gwin already have on their standard 40's). The only reason to go to it would be for chassis improvement - both gwin and atherton liked the straightline rockgarden monstertruck compliance, but felt it was too flexy in the corners (which is the most important, according to fox, and gwin/atherton), and it was already heavier. Not much chassis improvement there, and there isn't a significant amount of stiction to reduce. It also exposes the stantions to rock strikes (moreso then the current).
The only reason I could see it happening is if 29 inch wheels start popping up more on DH bikes, as irider suggested.
The only reason I could see it happening is if 29 inch wheels start popping up more on DH bikes, as irider suggested.
The Manitou/Fox debate is pretty simple.
Manitou said the Dorado is stiff and people will believe it, Fox said the inverted 40 wasn't stiff enough and people will believe it. It's not like either company is going to publish the numbers for you to look at.
Whatever Fox's reason for not making an inverted 40 you can be sure the official statement will always be because it's not as good as the current model.
Manitou said the Dorado is stiff and people will believe it, Fox said the inverted 40 wasn't stiff enough and people will believe it. It's not like either company is going to publish the numbers for you to look at.
Whatever Fox's reason for not making an inverted 40 you can be sure the official statement will always be because it's not as good as the current model.
Very well put.
If they used travis their benchmark was pretty stiff. That stupid reverse arch + hex axle made that fork plenty stiff.