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US Supreme Court rejects executions for child rape

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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Well, I'm trying to think from the position of someone that supports the death penalty, they either want them to go to Hell or want them to suffer in some way, and making them live out their life in prison is pretty bad suffering for a pedophile.
Oh, I see.

I don't really understand why people can be for a death penalty when the death penalty doesn't reduce violent crime
Can you likewise comprehend how can people be for incarceration when incarceration doesn't reduce crime?? It simply makes no sense!
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
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I'm for the death penalty just because there are too many worthless people on this planet. I think there should never be something like a life sentence without parole because there is no point. That person will live off the taxpayer, and for what? What purpose does a life sentence serve?

Why punish the tax payer? Kill them and save a few bucks.

Don't get me started on the cost of the death penalty, that's a whole other mess with multiple appeals and all that crap. Just hook 'em up and fry 'em.
 

valve bouncer

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Feb 11, 2002
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I can see the death penalty helping when used as leverage after someone has been caught to get information.
That to me is also bizarre logic. We'll save you from the death penalty if you tell us what happened? That kills both their main arguements...that they deserve to die and that it's a deterrent because they live anyway. The fact that they can save their arse through telling the truth is a not a pro death penalty arguement because you get neither revenge or deterrent. You don't even get the third and weakest pro death penalty arguement i.e- that they don't deserve the money we spend on them to keep them in prison so we might as well kill them. The death penalty just doesn't stand up to any sort of logical arguement.
 

Samirol

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Can you likewise comprehend how can people be for incarceration when incarceration doesn't reduce crime?? It simply makes no sense!
Incarceration reduces crime in some cases, but most cases it is better to try for rehabilitation rather than treat them like a child and stick them with thousands of other criminals.

I think people want a sense of justice, that somebody got what was coming to them.
 

pnj

Turbo Monkey till the fat lady sings
Aug 14, 2002
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I'm for the death penalty just because there are too many worthless people on this planet. I think there should never be something like a life sentence without parole because there is no point. That person will live off the taxpayer, and for what? What purpose does a life sentence serve?

Why punish the tax payer? Kill them and save a few bucks.

Don't get me started on the cost of the death penalty, that's a whole other mess with multiple appeals and all that crap. Just hook 'em up and fry 'em.
DING! DING! DING!
we have a winner!
 

Defenestrated

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Mar 28, 2007
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but the thing is you can't choose to ignore the cost of appeals regarding the death penalty

appeals are standard practice and they cost money

so much so that sentencing some one to death actually costs more than imprisoning them for life
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
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but the thing is you can't choose to ignore the cost of appeals regarding the death penalty

appeals are standard practice and they cost money

so much so that sentencing some one to death actually costs more than imprisoning them for life
The appeals system is broken, though. I think if there is a clear preponderance of evidence, then what is an appeal good for? Also, if we created pay-per-view executions, they would pay for themselves. Maybe a sponsorship deal?

"Tonight's execution is bought to you by Burger King. Have it your way!"
 

Samirol

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The appeals system is broken, though. I think if there is a clear preponderance of evidence, then what is an appeal good for? Also, if we created pay-per-view executions, they would pay for themselves. Maybe a sponsorship deal?

"Tonight's execution is bought to you by Burger King. Have it your way!"
we are privatizing health care in prisons, why just not go the whole 9 yards? :banghead:
 

Samirol

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from another forum

Governor Bobby Jindal said, “The Sex Offender Chemical Castration Bill is a good bill, and I am especially glad to sign it into Louisiana law today, on the same day the Supreme Court has made an atrocious ruling against our state’s ability to sentence those who sexually assault our children to the fullest extent. Those who prey on our children are among the very worst criminals imaginable.
As an example, Louisiana Revised Statutes (R.S.) 14:89 provides:A. Crime against nature is: (1) The unnatural carnal copulation by a human being with another of the same sex or opposite sex

SB 144 by Senators Nick Gautreaux, Amedee, Dorsey, Duplessis and Mount provides that on a first conviction of aggravated rape, forcible rape, second degree sexual battery, aggravated incest, molestation of a juvenile when the victim is under the age of 13, or an aggravated crime against nature, the court may sentence the offender to undergo chemical castration. On a second conviction of the above listed crimes, the court is required to sentence the offender to undergo chemical castration.

This bill also provides that a court may instead order a physical castration instead of the chemical castration. Convicted sex offenders who undergo castration must still serve their full sentence, as their treatment will not affect their sentencing. Under the bill, if a convicted sex offender fails to appear for their chemical castration, they will serve an additional sentence of three to five years.

In the recently concluded regular session of the legislature, Governor Jindal also supported the passage of SB 143 to prohibit a sex offender from wearing a mask, hood or disguise during holiday events and from distributing candy or other gifts on Halloween to persons under eighteen years of age; SB 517 which provides for the lifetime registration of sex offenders; SB 510 to double the minimum sentence for computer-aided solicitation of a minor; HB 770 to prohibit the use text messaging by sex offenders; and SB 514 to increase the minimum sentence for the molestation of a juvenile by five-fold.
This is so crazy I don't know where to begin.
 
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Defenestrated

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what ever happened to good ole incarceration?

I love how these people think chemical castration removes the sex drive too, ahahahah failures...
 

Samirol

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Jun 23, 2008
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what ever happened to good ole incarceration?

I love how these people think chemical castration removes the sex drive too, ahahahah failures...
The only difference is that they will be shooting blanks, this is like FGM in Africa, they think because they removed the genitalia, that they won't want to have sex
 

BMXman

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Sep 8, 2001
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I don't really understand why people can be for a death penalty when the death penalty doesn't reduce violent crime, beyond creating a feeling of "**** YEAH HE GOT WHAT WAS COMING TO HIM"
agreed and it does nothing to help the pain involved...I'm speaking from experience...D
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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The only difference is that they will be shooting blanks, this is like FGM in Africa, they think because they removed the genitalia, that they won't want to have sex
Well the bill does also allow for physical castration...