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Using Strava for usage analysis?

I'm on the board of a non-profit that conserves more than 1,000 acres of land. Historically we have kept our trails off the map and most trail maintenance is performed by a few mountain bikers.

One of our founders recently developed a hard-on based on his belief that MTB is growing in the area and that hundreds (rather than maybe ten) of riders are set up to invade our lands.

Said founder presented heat maps zoomed in to the property to underscore his assertion.

If one looks at a larger scale on a larger scale, say from Huntingdon to Middlebury, we are not visible save faintly for runners.

Is there any way to filter Strava for information such as usage per day? I suspect that they can do it internally, but I have no inside people to ask.
 

canadmos

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Not really sure about Strava, but Trailforks definitely can do that and you can retrieve the information very easily.

Trailforks obviously doesn't have the same user base as Strava, but its a start..
 

canadmos

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Actually, I should correct myself. If the trails/riding area aren't in Trailforks, it will make it harder to generate usage reports for that specific area. You'd have to go up to whatever the parent region/city is.
 

6thElement

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I thought if you were a subscribed member in Strava you could check a segment and see what the times were for that day (if people have their data "public"). That could be a way to get the metric required on usage.
 

boostindoubles

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Strava heat maps are good indicators for use. But what % of users are logging their data? Heat maps that are zoomed in lose alot of the volume of use context.

I used to make little strava segments on my trails. From the desktop Strava platform you can look at daily use by segment but it's not that intuitive to get there.
 

canadmos

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Jm_

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I thought if you were a subscribed member in Strava you could check a segment and see what the times were for that day (if people have their data "public"). That could be a way to get the metric required on usage.
Yep, there’s an idiot riding backwards on one of our one way downhill segments, also removing and defacing the signs, and I created a backwards running, walking and riding segment to match it and it quickly revealed who was doing the dangerous wrong way riding.
 

jstuhlman

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further, if you click on the "year" it will show you at the bottom of the screen the total number of users for that year. the "today" line just appears if someone has ridden it on the particular day that you are accessing that segment, so in a way it is "live" (i.e., if no on has ridden that segment on the day you are looking at it, it will not appear).
 

Jozz

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Haven't looked at this in detail, but this seems interesting.


Though their method of rating trails based solely on average slope is a bit whack.
Stoopid. So a trail like Outback at Kanata Lake which is basically flat would be rated green...

Trailfork has the subjective rating indeed. But users can rate up or down a specific trail. So you get a better feel of the actual rating of a trail.
 

canadmos

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Stoopid. So a trail like Outback at Kanata Lake which is basically flat would be rated green...

Trailfork has the subjective rating indeed. But users can rate up or down a specific trail. So you get a better feel of the actual rating of a trail.
Yeah using one point of input for rating will never work, for majority of places. And at the end of the day, aren't most trail ratings subjective anyways?

I thought their way of presenting the trails and using Lidar to map the area was cool. Though again maybe that only works for them, as they have literally no trees and whatnot.
 

Jozz

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Yeah using one point of input for rating will never work, for majority of places. And at the end of the day, aren't most trail ratings subjective anyways?

I thought their way of presenting the trails and using Lidar to map the area was cool. Though again maybe that only works for them, as they have literally no trees and whatnot.
I use Lidar a lot for planning trails. We have something in Quebec called Forêt Ouverte with Lidar data.

Also, trail centers around Quebec have started ranking their trails per level.


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canadmos

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I use Lidar a lot for planning trails. We have something in Quebec called Forêt Ouverte with Lidar data.

Also, trail centers around Quebec have started ranking their trails per level.


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They are deviating from the normal green/blue/black ratings?

Or ranking those against eachother? Whistler has a pretty good PDF with this info:

 

Jozz

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They are deviating from the normal green/blue/black ratings?

Or ranking those against eachother? Whistler has a pretty good PDF with this info:

Ranking each level. So if they have five black diamond they rank them from easier to harder. Same for all other levels.

But again, when you travel you end up not really knowing what to expect. VT blacks are often our blues. But BC blues are like our double blacks. :D
 

canadmos

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Ranking each level. So if they have five black diamond they rank them from easier to harder. Same for all other levels.

But again, when you travel you end up not really knowing what to expect. VT blacks are often our blues. But BC blues are like our double blacks. :D
Yeah true, I take the actual ratings at face value and use them as a comparison for whatever region I'm in.

I know a guy who was trying to compare all trail ratings, in this local area, to the difficulty ratings in Whistler. He didn't really seem to understand why that doesn't work, unless his goal is for all trails to be rated green here. :D Though I do agree with him, that perhaps some are rated too high, but anyways.

Its good that they are ranking each level, that really helps with gauging how much harder one trail might be over another (even if they are rated the same). I also like how most bike parks and some centers also distinguish if a trail is a man made jump or flow trail - so that I can avoid them. Black tech vs black jumps are different ball games, I think. I mean I suck ass at jumps, but do well as tech, so its works for me anyways.
 

Jozz

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most bike parks and some centers also distinguish if a trail is a man made jump or flow trail - so that I can avoid them. Black tech vs black jumps are different ball games, I think. I mean I suck ass at jumps, but do well as tech, so its works for me anyways.
Are we the same person?

:rolleyes: