[sanjuro]

Woman beats brother after interrupting molest attack, police say

Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer

Thursday, September 25, 2008

(09-25) 11:43 PDT EAST PALO ALTO -- A woman beat up her brother after she caught him sexually assaulting her 2-year-old daughter in his East Palo Alto home, police said today.

Joel Aguilar Guizar, 23, was allegedly attacking the child when his sister broke down a locked bedroom door about 1 p.m. Wednesday, said East Palo Alto police Detective Jeff Liu.

The woman, whose name was not released, saw Guizar pulling up his pants, grew enraged and "beat the crap out of him," Liu said.

Police were called to investigate reports of a domestic battery in progress. When they arrived, officers heard the sound of fighting inside the home. They went in and saw "two women visibly upset and clutching their children," Liu said.

The officers found Guizar "cowering in the corner," Liu said.

Guizar suffered minor bruises. His sister was not arrested. Police did not give an address for Guizar's home.

He was booked at San Mateo County Jail on three counts of sodomy of a child and one count of lewd acts with a child.

 

[jonKranked]

and the problem is....??

 

[Samirol]

and the problem is....??

the mother wasn't arrested for a crime

 

[jonKranked]

the mother wasn't arrested for a crime

So if you caught someone molesting your 2 year old child, you wouldn't do anything?

 

[Samirol]

So if you caught someone molesting your 2 year old child, you wouldn't do anything?

It depends if she beat him beyond the point of self-defense of her and her child, really. It doesn't matter what I would do, it matters if it breaks the law, from the law's point of view.

edit: added her and her child

 

[reflux]

the mother wasn't arrested for a crime

What crime? Based on limited reports of scene, the woman threw down some hurtin' bombs to protect the child from (further?) molestation. It certainly doesn't hurt their case that the man suffered only from bruising.

 

[Samirol]

What crime? Based on limited reports of scene, the woman threw down some hurtin' bombs to protect the child from (further?) molestation. It certainly doesn't hurt their case that the man suffered only from bruising.

yeah, exactly, if it was beyond the point of self-defense, then it should probably be looked into, if it is within the realm of self-defense, then good job

 

[jonKranked]

It depends if she beat him beyond the point of self-defense, really.

This obviously wasn't the case. He only suffered minor bruising.

It doesn't matter what I would do, it matters if it breaks the law, from the law's point of view.

I don't think any police officer in their right mind would arrest a mother for beating up someone who she caught sexually assaulting her child. Same goes for a judge with any sense - he'd throw the case right out.

Now, if she had gone to the garage to fetch a chainsaw to castrate the scumbag, it would be a different story.

 

[Samirol]

This obviously wasn't the case. He only suffered minor bruising.



I don't think any police officer in their right mind would arrest a mother for beating up someone who she caught sexually assaulting her child. Same goes for a judge with any sense - he'd throw the case right out.

Now, if she had gone to the garage to fetch a chainsaw to castrate the scumbag, it would be a different story.

I'm kinda assuming the injuries at least looked gruesome, otherwise I don't really see why this is newsworthy enough for the paper to print.

 

[jonKranked]

I'm kinda assuming the injuries at least looked gruesome, otherwise I don't really see why this is newsworthy enough for the paper to print.

I think its more the fact that not everyday you catch your brother molesting your 2 year old daughter, then fly off the hook and whoop his ass.

 

[Samirol]

I think its more the fact that not everyday you catch your brother molesting your 2 year old daughter, then fly off the hook and whoop his ass.

depends if you live in a state where the majority of residents consider their ancestry "American"

 

[reflux]

yeah, exactly, if it was beyond the point of self-defense, then it should probably be looked into, if it is within the realm of self-defense, then good job

Oh damn, we forgot the Texas factor. If it were in Texas and not Northern California, she could've put a shotgun to his nutz without fear of prosecution.

 

[ohio]

I don't understand what her problem was. After all, there's a 90% chance they're catholic.

 

[pinkshirtphotos]

i bet ya he was also the father too.

 

[jonKranked]

i bet ya he was also the father too.

Its california, not West Virginia.

 

[MikeD]

Oh damn, we forgot the Texas factor. If it were in Texas and not Northern California, she could've put a shotgun to his nutz without fear of prosecution.

Umm, anyone, anywhere can employ deadly force to protect themselves or another from the threat of death or serious bodily harm. Depends on the circumstances, of course, but I think an adult molesting a child tilts us pretty decidedly towards the possibility of serious bodily harm to the child.

There are "obligations to retreat" in some states, but that hinges on the feasibility of retreat...with an adult who's got a child immobilized, the notion of retreat becomes infeasible.

Don't aim for the nuts; contact shot to the head.

 

[Damo]

Huge props go to her.

I would have certainly taken it a few steps further. However, it's kinda hard to be on RM in prison.

Child molesters should receive no pity whatsoever. Whatever is left of them to go to trial, they should be put into the general populace in prison where they will be dealt with further.

May they go to hell.

 

[sanjuro]

yeah, exactly, if it was beyond the point of self-defense, then it should probably be looked into, if it is within the realm of self-defense, then good job

The molestation was done, the 2 year old was safe if not unharmed.

I guess you would cover up the molester to protect him from harm.