I guess they don't have IKEA greeters?
So is better to work or be on welfare? Sounds like Sweeden is thinking that working might be a better idea.
I bet you could boil down that 300 lb mother and her kids to fill a few SUV gas tanks.
Can you make biodiesel out of babies?
I don't see why not, but you would want to mix it with some other fuels so the exhaust doesn't have that baby stink.
I wonder if it would be acceptable to use fetusi as biodiesel since you can't use them for stem cells?
Thing is, if a community or a company wants you to pick up their trash they should pay you a real salary for doing an actual job, not just a few crumbs that welfare actualy is. Welfare is for those who of some reason can't get a job and out of another reason can't get unemployment compensation.
Ikea is not operated as a company but by a foundation. To my knowledge it hasn't moved but I could be wrong.
Well if the reality of the situation even closely resembled the idea of it, we could agree. Its not like jobs are hard to come by here, and its not like they're doing anything else.
From what I understand, they moved the headquarters to Denmark a few years ago, and then possibly to the Netherlands after that. Not sure about the second move. They did a big thing up here on the 1 year anniversary of the move, where all uniforms were red and white for one day to celebreate it.
http://www.icsc.org/srch/sct/sct0402/page51.php
What does it matter who owns IKEA or where its headquartered?
Okay that's fine but if the welfare amount is equal to the amount that you would be paid working somewhere doing something (WalMart greeter isn't that high pressure or crappy of a job) isn't that better. Doesn't that create a better sense of self-worth? Or is that important?rockwool said:
If its important to give people a sence of self-worth thru having a job? Of course it is! But it is equally important to give that feeling of self-worth to people thru things that hasn't got anything to do with work aswell. Because otherwise it will just mean that people who work are worth something, and as an example, a lot of seniors have problems feeling good about them selves since they stopped working.
Oh yeah, they're just weeping their crocodile tears as they cash their social security checks.
YOu hit the nail right on the head. Most of the people I know by cheap stuff made overseas, by people who don't have the standard of living that we have. Then they bitch about their pay or job disappearing and having to pay for their healthcare. HELLLO- if you give your money to corporate raiders that employ slaves overseas, how do you think the job market in this country will survive?? It won't.
That article writer sounds like a spoilt person, with his thumb right in his palm and has always had servants to wipe his ass for him.
US companies never threatened to move jobs to Mexico? They want maximum profits, and the well being of their countrymen are the furthest from their minds. Always bitchin on people, that are to sick to go to work, being bad for the country but wouldn't hesitate put hundreds of thousands in unemployment dispare for a dollar more profit.
Yeah, major tax cuts are comming. Dunno how they will fund everything though. Unions are obviously the devil. The right wing has always been fighting against the organization of the poor man. But look at the rich and you will see that they are organized too. They wouldn't be close to effective if they weren't, but the devil has always been the organizations of the poor man...
True, but our standard of living has to decline out of enviromental reasons aswell. Or, mother earth will be hell to live on.
I think you guys in the US are pretty good at being consious consumers. You've been promoting domesticlay made products for the sake of your jobs since the 80's at least. I hardly ever come across a person that thinks that way over here. Personaly, I not only look at if sertain companies are ethical, but I don't buy products from countries I think aren't good natured in their foreign and domestic politics. Gotta "shut them down" like Public Enemy said.
Ever heard of the Tobin tax? If I remember it correctly it was a proposal that international business with shares should be taxed with 1-2% and that the money would go to the poorer countries some how. Never came true. The greedy effed the most needy, again.
Don't forget to ad luck on that list.
That article is very typical for how the right wing propaganda has been like. Probably pretty similar to what it is in many countries, the view that the workers are nothing but expendable means to produce riches, and also must be whiped to move, not given carrots.
It is partialy true about Early Retirement (partialy because there could be other reasons to that I don't know of), people over 50 or something are looked upon as too old to learn something new and/or just not worth the effort, by the employers. After some years of unemployment they get an early retirement. Whos foult is it that they don't get hired?
Can't comment on this as I know nothing about it.
Thing is, we've had it pretty good here just until two decades back. Up until the great recession in the early-mid 90's the unemployment was at about 2%. I remember that in the 80's one had no problem getting a job by just finishing junior high.
Well, it's a pretty depressive ****in country if you look at the suicide statistics. 2nd to Japan if I'm not mistaken....and it's not a recent thing eather.
Screeee (cartoon panic break), wait a minute. For "policy matter", what the f does that mean? What kind of a comparison is made on unequal grounds? "Also including welfare recipients", which employer is going to hire the outcast that don't even want to hire people that have worked for 35 years of their lives or those in unemployment programs?
That is interesting!
And hopefully our caring and empaty has grown with time too so that more people dare to speak up about their illnesses.
To summerize, all those he considers to be "unemployed" are a lost potential to make a profit on. The top of the pyramid craves more $ from the bottom.
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Yeah - those bastards are going to establish $4 prescriptions on generic drugs in 14 states next year. They are doing it for profit, of course, but I can't help but think that it will help some under priveledged people. It may pain you, but WalMart, while not great, is not a corporation formed by satan. They found a business model that works, and people hate them for parts of that model. Sure I can find some fault, but I can find some good too.
Same over in Western Australia, unemployment is about 3%. I was reading the other day about the manager of a fast food restaurant in an isolated area getting US$1500 a week plus housing because it's almost impossible to get people there. They're handing out guest worker visas like Smarties in Australia.NZ is currently at the opposite extreme..... the unemployment rate is so low that it's hurting the ecconomy.
So few people unemployed and looking for work that to get new staff company's now have to offer borderline uneconomicly (is that a word?? ) high wages and conditions to even get people to apply for the jobs!
My own company was looking for a stitcher operator and a folder operator but only got 2 replys over a month...... and one of those aplicants was so stoned he couldn't manage to get more than 2 coherant sentances out at a time in the interview!
Damn, is there a high demand for fisheries biologists down there? How about physical therapists?Same over in Western Australia, unemployment is about 3%. I was reading the other day about the manager of a fast food restaurant in an isolated area getting US$1500 a week plus housing because it's almost impossible to get people there. They're handing out guest worker visas like Smarties in Australia.
Good to see the Kiwis riding on our backs btw. Typical.
Seriously Shirl, if you're interested you'd get into Australia no probs at the moment as you're American (speak English) and got tertiary education. Your missus, being a health professional, would get in easy, especially if you were prepared to work in an isolated area (i.e mining area). Christ, if you can drive a truck you can get $2000 a week.
While the wife and I were in Thailand, we met a dude from Canatia and his Dutch gf. They picked grapes at the vineyards in Australia, saved their earnings and backpacked around Asia. Oddly enough, it was quite lucrative if you had low living expenses (which they did)... When funds got low, they just went back to Oz and picked some more grapes for a couple months.... Then off to more exotic spots.....That's livin'.
Lot's of Marine biology stuff going on in NZ these days. Crown reasearch companys like NIWA and the Deptment of conservation do Heaps in that area, then there's all the comercial aquaculture. And Physical therapist's? Hell there's Heaps of work aqround for them!
