I never said I thought the movie was bad, I just think personally he's a toolEcho said:Why would Tom Cruise acting like a dolt on Oprah have anything to do with how good a movie is?
It ain't that bad senor.Skookum said:hmm it's playin in an hour at my local theater. i'll go see it and give my skoop.
While he was in a local gas station, he donated $5,000 in cash to a local charity. I guess he bought my approval.Snacks said:I never said I thought the movie was bad, I just think personally he's a tool
Pix? This isn't gonna be a Stoney Incident, is it?Gyro said:Some of the scenes were shot near here, at a local farm.
For the scenes they shot, they needed massive numbers of extras. I wasn't an extra myself, but lots of my friends got to hang around with Tom Cruise for a few days.
It was really neat to have so many big names around town. Cruise spent a lot of time at dairy queen.
While he was in a local gas station, he donated $5,000 in cash to a local charity. I guess he bought my approval.
sanjuro said:Movie sucks? Surprise!
Yeah, for serious.SkaredShtles said:
I say never be surprised that a movie sucks. If you go in with that attitude, you'll never be disappointed.
You are right about that. But I think it is a safe bet for most movies today. Not only the movies have gotten a lot worse, our expections for good movies are much lower now.SkaredShtles said:
I say never be surprised that a movie sucks. If you go in with that attitude, you'll never be disappointed.
Ha, that is funny. I can't think if any of the movies you listed in 2002 that was a great film. Some of them were good, but none were great.sanjuro said:You are right about that. But I think it is a safe bet for most movies today. Not only the movies have gotten a lot worse, our expections for good movies are much lower now.
Put it this way (I highlighted the all time great movies):
Top grossing movies for 1973 in the USA
156,000,000 The Sting (1973)
115,000,000 American Graffiti (1973)
53,267,000 Papillon (1973)
39,661,731 The Exorcist (1973)
35,400,000 Live and Let Die (1973)
Top grossing movies for 1974 in the USA
119,500,000 Blazing Saddles (1974)
116,000,000 The Towering Inferno (1974)
86,300,000 Young Frankenstein (1974)
57,300,000 The Godfather: Part II (1974)
44,053,000 Black Christmas (1974)
Top grossing movies for 2002 in the USA
403,620,726 Spider-Man (2002)
298,843,836 Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002)
186,461,835 Men in Black II (2002)
176,295,381 Ice Age (2002)
167,779,791 Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002)
150,941,848 Scooby-Doo (2002)
138,567,254 Lilo & Stitch (2002)
128,157,396 Minority Report (2002)
122,822,244 Mr. Deeds (2002)
117,986,808 The Sum of All Fears (2002)
There is not a great one in any of the top ten 2002 movies, and most of them stunk. On the other hand, the movie business is doing a much better job marketing films, considering Mr. Deeds made more money than Blazing Saddles and Goldmember beat The Sting (and just barely beat Scooby-Doo).
I now realize that the numbers I found are not adjusted for inflation. But the bar for good movies was much higher in previous decades than now.
No kidding. I've found that lately I've been watching TurnerClassicMovies a lot more on tv, I mean, completely unedited classic movies that are 50x better than almost all of today's movies. I have to say my favorite of all time is Lawrence of Arabia.Snacks said:Ha, that is funny. I can't think if any of the movies you listed in 2002 that was a great film. Some of them were good, but none were great.
Yup. In 1973 dollars Mr. Deeds made $8.45.sanjuro said:<snip> considering Mr. Deeds made more money than Blazing Saddles and Goldmember beat The Sting (and just barely beat Scooby-Doo).
I now realize that the numbers I found are not adjusted for inflation.
I would say the exact opposite.. Those movies you listed are probably better noted as being classics, rather than great. Standards have changed. To put those classics on the same level as say Fight Club, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Minority Report, Spider Man is like comparing apples to oranges. There all good in there own respect, but i don't think many people would be going to see those classics if they came out today...sanjuro said:You are right about that. But I think it is a safe bet for most movies today. Not only the movies have gotten a lot worse, our expections for good movies are much lower now.
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Yep technology is better, actors are better, production and soundtracks are better, the problem is that they seem to think that all that can replace a good plot, which is rare these days.crash test said:I I think generally movies are much better now. Better actors, better technology, bigger budgets. It makes sense. Thats not to say there aren't a lot of movies that are just plain bad these days..
Not to mention that the age of independant major studios is dead in Hollywood. Studios now are owned by corporations that have no idea how to make movies. Their bottom line is money. These corporations have so much money coming in from other areas, hollywood, and movie making doesn't even make a dent in how much money they make. So do you think they're gonna care about developing great stories, nurturing talent? Not really...Westy said:Yep technology is better, actors are better, production and soundtracks are better, the problem is that they seem to think that all that can replace a good plot, which is rare these days.
Some of the movies in 5-10 slots were Benji, Return to the Planet of the Apes, and The Groove Tube; which are all pretty forgettable today. There are bad and good movies in every era.crash test said:I would say the exact opposite.. Those movies you listed are probably better noted as being classics, rather than great. Standards have changed. To put those classics on the same level as say Fight Club, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Minority Report, Spider Man is like comparing apples to oranges. There all good in there own respect, but i don't think many people would be going to see those classics if they came out today...
The general population going to movies now is much different as well. You get many teeanage and younger than teenage kids making up a large portion of the movie goer population.
Some of the movies on the 2002 list you put up I personally think suck.. Rating are overrated. I think generally movies are much better now. Better actors, better technology, bigger budgets. It makes sense. Thats not to say there aren't a lot of movies that are just plain bad these days..
Hmmm.... sounds like the McDonaldization of the movie industry. I'm shocked that this could happen.sanjuro said:<snip>
Would have it done better if Spiderman, MIB2, and Scooby-Doo did not exist? You know it. And movies as good as the Pianist get harder and harder to make. But it is good business to create easily marketable movies, and that is humorous action genre.
The only movie I can think of recently that successfully combined all of those was LOTR. And their plot had already been written for them.Westy said:Yep technology is better, actors are better, production and soundtracks are better, the problem is that they seem to think that all that can replace a good plot, which is rare these days.
Smuggle your own in.I Are Baboon said:Something has got to be done about the price of movie popcorn, and NOT BUYING ANY isn't an option.
i bring some from home, stuffed in my boxers.I Are Baboon said:Something has got to be done about the price of movie popcorn, and NOT BUYING ANY isn't an option.
Does that keep it hot or something?narlus said:i bring some from home, stuffed in my boxers.
SkaredShtles said:Smuggle your own in.
The home cooked stuff just isn't as good as theater popcorn. I don't go for that extra buttery liquid stuff though.narlus said:i bring some from home, stuffed in my boxers.
Or buy 5 pounds of it at Costco. Whoops. :I Are Baboon said:The home cooked stuff just isn't as good as theater popcorn. I don't go for that extra buttery liquid stuff though.
I do smuggle in candy. Pay $4 for 8 oz of Reese's Pieces at the movies, or pay 89 cents at the grocery store.