from original post...Hey LO - how have those stock shorts been working out lately?
I am a genius.I think a 0.5% drop would be necessary to fend off a recession.
Lest we forget, Genius.<snip>
-- Federal Reserve unlikely to lower rates
Isn't it primarily the financial stocks that have seen the decline? I suspect they'll see even more downside before they turn around.A fair amount of stocks are down, good time to buy for the long haul.
Isn't it primarily the financial stocks that have seen the decline? I suspect they'll see even more downside before they turn around.
The market averages are actually up quite nicely since this mortgage nonsense broke.
Let's face it - most non-retarded lenders didn't get too much into that mess.My stocks went up quite a bit. A large portion of them are in a corporation with a huge financial division, just a financial division that didn't **** up.
They were wrapped into bundles with low risk loans and so it brought the security (I think thats the word) to an A rating. The theory was that the low risk would offset the high risk and they had a formula for it all (an untested one). There was an article that explained why it was having an impact on the stock market, it has nothing to do with bank stock going down....it has everything to do with hedge funds.Let's face it - most non-retarded lenders didn't get too much into that mess.
Sub prime borrowers. It means lending to people who can't afford the loan. Is it really a shock to people that it came to this?
Find me that article - because it appears to be mistaken.They were wrapped into bundles with low risk loans and so it brought the security (I think thats the word) to an A rating. The theory was that the low risk would offset the high risk and they had a formula for it all (an untested one). There was an article that explained why it was having an impact on the stock market, it has nothing to do with bank stock going down....it has everything to do with hedge funds.
I'm trying, its been about two months since I read it.Find me that article - because it appears to be mistaken.
Really? Sure your not clueless?Small businesses are thriving, the middle class is making money like never before, product sales are through the roof despite high prices, and and quality of living is going up across the board.
Cut him some slack. He's in Alabama.Really? Sure your not clueless?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14251360/site/newsweek/
Small businesses may employ much of the country but to say they run it is ridiculous. If people have that kind of access to government funds they almost by definition cease to run small businesses.Our economy's trouble in lower class bull****. Small businesses are thriving, the middle class is making money like never before, product sales are through the roof despite high prices, and and quality of living is going up across the board. Anyone that thinks our debt and spending have anything to do with the shape of the economy is clueless. Small business runs this country. Not to mention any smart investor could make more money now than anytime in the last 50 years.
What in the motherfvck are you talking about? The middle class is in the ****tiest position it's been in since before the term "middle class" was coined.Our economy's trouble in lower class bull****. Small businesses are thriving, the middle class is making money like never before, product sales are through the roof despite high prices, and and quality of living is going up across the board. Anyone that thinks our debt and spending have anything to do with the shape of the economy is clueless. Small business runs this country. Not to mention any smart investor could make more money now than anytime in the last 50 years.
a debt to income ratio of 126% isn't good?? I'm confused :huh:What in the motherfvck are you talking about? The middle class is in the ****tiest position it's been in since before the term "middle class" was coined.
But they got more stuff! And they need more stuff! And they want more stuff!What in the motherfvck are you talking about? The middle class is in the ****tiest position it's been in since before the term "middle class" was coined.
But they got more stuff! And they need more stuff! And they want more stuff!
GIVE ME MORE STUFF!!
Bull$hit. Everybody is still keeping up with the Joneses. Two new cars, a boat, a couple jet skis, mobile phones for every f**king person in the house, a big plasma TV, iPods for ever family member, a 3500 sq foot house with a bedroom for every f**king person in the house...I don't know if it's really for more stuff now. When you have kids you have daycare or loose your job, that's 800-1000/month right there. vaccinations, co-pays, growing clothing, gas higher, milk higher,dollar sinking- conservatives make all the basics more so the middle class has to work harder and the old money controlling the basics reap the dividends.
Life is short, filled with stuff.But they got more stuff! And they need more stuff! And they want more stuff!
GIVE ME MORE STUFF!!
I've seen it both ways. I have some friends that finance to the gills to get all the big toys, but I have other friends who struggle paycheck to paycheck with two kids. Some of the problems are self-inflicted with over spending on luxury items, but the big problems is the lack of wage increases. With inflation going up up (wasn't it around 4 points last year?) and wages not, we all in effect make less money each year.Bull$hit. Everybody is still keeping up with the Joneses. Two new cars, a boat, a couple jet skis, mobile phones for every f**king person in the house, a big plasma TV, iPods for ever family member, a 3500 sq foot house with a bedroom for every f**king person in the house...
No - I've highlighted the problem.I've seen it both ways. I have some friends that finance to the gills to get all the big toys, but I have other friends who struggle paycheck to paycheck with two kids. Some of the problems are self-inflicted with over spending on luxury items, but the big problems is the lack of wage increases. With inflation going up up (wasn't it around 4 points last year?) and wages not, we all in effect make less money each year.
Not compared to the federal gubberments ratio of 800%.....a debt to income ratio of 126% isn't good?? I'm confused :huh:
Is that really what it is??? I knew the national debt was large, but I didn't know it was that big What in the hell is wrong with Washington?Not compared to the federal gubberments ratio of 800%.....
It's the gays fault? I knew there was a conspiracy!!No stupid.
George Takei... he's gay.
Where?!?!?!?normally i wouldn't care that much, but i'm trying to pay off a car i just bought late last year by selling some stock. i think i'll sit on the payments for a few months instead.
oh look! a squirrel!
not sure if i agree to the implied causality, but maybe something more subtle may be at hand? again, i'm projecting, so i see it as: rate goes down. stock price goes up (or is at least buoyed). i sell stock. i pay off debt.But I can't understand the Fed dropping rates again. Seems irresponsible to encourage consumers to spend more and go further in debt while further weakening the dollar globally.