Washington State - Split in 2?

MMike · Feb 23, 2005

They might want to look up a guy named Jacques Parizeau to spearhead this plan...

mattv2099 · Feb 23, 2005

I'm from washington. This is a pretty weird idea. I've never heard of or thought of splitting washington.

I would just worry about all the eastern WA kids who need to come to western WA to go to college. out of state tuition is the sux. lol.

Actually, I think the idea is pretty cool.

reflux · Feb 23, 2005

That would mean a lot of American flags would need replacing. Why don't we just make CA a separate country, divide WA into two states, and keep all the American flags the same? I'd be more than happy to support the cessation of CA (sarcasm).

sanjuro · Feb 23, 2005

I've heard the same plan for California, a split of North and South. It was some attempt to increase electoral votes so another Bush would never make it into office.

valve bouncer · Feb 23, 2005

sanjuro said:
I've heard the same plan for California, a split of North and South. It was some attempt to increase electoral votes so another Bush would never make it into office.

How would that work? I always thought electoral college votes were allocated according to population.

Changleen · Feb 23, 2005

Split the whole US in 2! Red and Blue! Blues can be friends with the world again (yay) and Reds can just go off and worship jeebus and divorce each other until they need aid from Mexico. Let's face it, now more than ever you guys have pretty deep ideological differences. Would you stay with a partner who was so different? Most neighbouring European countries are less different than say, Arizona and Calfornia, so why stay together? Is it just for the kids? Research shows that it's better for kids if their astranged parents get divorced than stay together in a loveless partnership. For g-ds sake won't somebody think of the children? Maybe you could even have a little civil war over it - we all know how much those reds like shooting stuff. It'd make em feel better about the whole break-up if they got to smash some of the furniture as they left.

Ridemonkey · Feb 23, 2005

Changleen said:
Split the whole US in 2! Red and Blue! Blues can be friends with the world again (yay) and Reds can just go off and worship jeebus and divorce each other until they need aid from Mexico. Let's face it, now more than ever you guys have pretty deep ideological differences.

That part was pretty good. The rest was drivel.

Changleen · Feb 23, 2005

Ridemonkey said:
That part was pretty good. The rest was drivel.

The rest was an apparantly failed attempt at humour.

Zark · Feb 23, 2005

sanjuro said:
I've heard the same plan for California, a split of North and South. It was some attempt to increase electoral votes so another Bush would never make it into office.

Really? I thought they wanted the split because Nor Cal bitches about So Cal using all the water and So Cal is tired of the incessant use of the term "Hella" :rolleyes:

MMike · Feb 23, 2005

Finally made it to the Times...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002187797_webeasternwash23.html

Toshi · Feb 23, 2005

Zark said:
Really? I thought they wanted the split because Nor Cal bitches about So Cal using all the water and So Cal is tired of the incessant use of the term "Hella"

hella is soooooo seattle.

Changleen · Feb 23, 2005

Unfortunatly for you Blues and the rest of the world none of this is likely to happen because of $$$$$s.

Oh and I know some chicks from Seattle who say 'hella' alot, and also a chick from Washington who says it alot, although she grew up in Seattle I think.

MikeD · Feb 23, 2005

valve bouncer said:
How would that work? I always thought electoral college votes were allocated according to population.

No, the state gets a total # of electoral votes equal to the number of representatives it has in the House of Representatives in Congress.

Now, it's the state's choice how those electoral votes are cast, according to that state's constitution and state laws. Most states have a system by which the single candidate with the majority of the state's popular vote receives ALL of the state's electoral votes.

Some states (only a few small ones now, I think) actually have provisions to allow the votes to be distributed among multiple candidates in some fashion, to better reflect the desires of the entire populace, instead of making the state a single unit for one party or the other.

People in larger, polarized states on both sides are exploring the possibilities to change this for the benefit of their respective parties. Lots of states (Colorado, for example, and California to some extent) have a dense urban liberal population and a sizable spread-out conservative rural population (or some other polarized demographic), and the side with the slight majority is pissing off the other and vice-versa.

MD

Tenchiro · Feb 23, 2005

Eastern WA would be like a third world country (even more so...) without the tax revenue from the rest of the state.

Atomic Dog · Feb 23, 2005

Tenchiro said:
Eastern WA would be like a third world country (even more so...) without the tax revenue from the rest of the state.

Sweet, now maybe I can live out my dream of being a land baron!

And I'll charge all you westsiders triple for land when your urban sprawl flows over the mountains. (Not that it hasn't already begun.) :devil:

PsychO!1 · Feb 23, 2005

The real question is....Which side keeps the name Washington, and what would the other side be called???

JMAC · Feb 23, 2005

It's almost as stupid as seperatist quebecs crackpot ideas of seperating from Canada. It's stupid just makes more beurocracy so more tax money is wasted. No way around that. :mumble: :mumble:

Changleen · Feb 23, 2005

Jr_Bullit said:
Last I checked - the split hadn't happened yet, and Seattle is still in WA so that would make sense.

I don't think I've heard that word actually spoken since highschool tho...

Yes, Thank you. I meant Oregon, obviously. Can't you read my mind?

pnj · Feb 23, 2005

Jr_Bullit said:
I don't think I've heard that word actually spoken since highschool tho...

if you want to hear it spoken on a semi regualar basis, you should try to make a point to hang out with me. I don't have to tell you though, you might lose some IQ if you do......

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.:Jeenyus:. · Feb 24, 2005

PsychO!1 said:
The real question is....Which side keeps the name Washington, and what would the other side be called???

East Washington and West Washington mayhaps? :think:

It will be like the State of Jefferson..... :rolleyes:

sanjuro · Feb 24, 2005

Zark said:
Really? I thought they wanted the split because Nor Cal bitches about So Cal using all the water and So Cal is tired of the incessant use of the term "Hella"

Hella - Good one

mattv2099 · Feb 24, 2005

PsychO!1 said:
The real question is....Which side keeps the name Washington, and what would the other side be called???

Well. western washington will go by the name 'western washington.' I think eastern washington will adopt the name 'south washington.'

fluff · Feb 24, 2005

mattv2099 said:
Well. western washington will go by the name 'western washington.' I think eastern washington will adopt the name 'south washington.'

How about George Washington and Martha Washington?

enkidu · Feb 24, 2005

fluff said:
How about George Washington and Martha Washington?

But they never split. They stayed together.

MMike · Feb 24, 2005

PsychO!1 said:
The real question is....Which side keeps the name Washington, and what would the other side be called???

WaRshington

MMike · Feb 24, 2005

JMAC said:
It's almost as stupid as seperatist quebecs crackpot ideas of seperating from Canada. It's stupid just makes more beurocracy so more tax money is wasted. No way around that. :mumble: :mumble:

Vive le Québec libre!!!

ummbikes · Feb 24, 2005

MMike said:
WaRshington

Simply brilliant Mike, you are getting back in your game for sure! :thumb:

RhinofromWA · Feb 24, 2005

I don't know....If they split the salmon runs would die as the columbia was damned even more and the cost of produce and electricity would sky rocket for the west side and send the businesses into turmoil. They would then leave the west side for greener pastures and leave Western washington with no tax base, poor liberals and lots of worthless housing....remember when Boeing cut back heavily in the mid 70's :eek:

It is funny to think aboiut them separating but I think the fact that the polar opposites are close to swapping the slight majority is scaring both sides. Eastern WA has always been second class to Western WA. I think Western WA is scared.

How does that song go? "....a country boy can survive...." "...I'd like to spit some beach nut in that dudes eye..."

Snacks · Feb 24, 2005

Tenchiro said:
Eastern WA would be like a third world country (even more so...) without the tax revenue from the rest of the state.

Have you spent much time over there as of recently?

Echo · Feb 24, 2005

I've always thought upstate NY would be a whole lot better off if New York City was a separate state. Not a single vote or opinion has ever meant squat in upstate, because NYC has such a huge population, and however they vote is what the rest of the state gets to deal with. But NYC would be a useless pile of debt if they couldn't siphon from the rest of the state, so obviously they will never agree to a separation, and since their votes decide everything, the rest of the state is eternally screwed.

Good luck Washington

N8 v2.0 · Feb 24, 2005

Echo said:
I've always thought upstate NY would be a whole lot better off if New York City was a separate state. Not a single vote or opinion has ever meant squat in upstate, because NYC has such a huge population, and however they vote is what the rest of the state gets to deal with. But NYC would be a useless pile of debt if they couldn't siphon from the rest of the state, so obviously they will never agree to a separation, and since their votes decide everything, the rest of the state is eternally screwed.

Good luck Washington

No problem.... remember that it isn't legal to own guns in NYC....

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