[Silver]

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/790724.html

Good stuff.

 

[MMike]

Don't they have bigger issues these days?

 

[Silver]

Don't they have bigger issues these days?

Credit where credit is due...

 

[reflux]

Israel is full of freedom haters.

Seriously though, that's great news.

 

[Changleen]

Yeah, That's cool.

They have some crazy freaknuts though:

"We don't have a Jewish state here. We have Sodom and Gomorrah here," said Moshe Gafni, an ultra-Orthodox lawmaker, referring to two cities the Bible said was destroyed because their citizens were so sinful.

"I assume that every sane person in the State of Israel, possibly the entire Jewish world, is shocked, because the significance is... the destruction of the family unit in the State of Israel," Gafni told Army Radio.

Destruction! Did you hear him? DESTRUCTION!

Damn religious freaks are dumb.

 

[LordOpie]

that's dumb.

If the state doesn't recognize gay marriages internally, then they shouldn't recognize them from other countries. For one thing, it sets up all sorts of dangerous precedents for other issues, laws, whatever that Israel doesn't recognize to be forced on the state. Another is, how are gay people who are poor supposed take advantage of this ruling?

 

[BurlyShirley]

Damn. I was hoping they shot rockets at another guy in a wheelchair or something.

 

[Changleen]

that's dumb.

If the state doesn't recognize gay marriages internally, then they shouldn't recognize them from other countries. For one thing, it sets up all sorts of dangerous precedents for other issues, laws, whatever that Israel doesn't recognize to be forced on the state. Another is, how are gay people who are poor supposed take advantage of this ruling?

Step by step. This is what some people call a 'precedent'.

 

[LordOpie]

Step by step. This is what some people call a 'precedent'.

You didn't really read my post, did ya?

 

[Changleen]

You didn't really read my post, did ya?

Skimmed it. This is the internet right? :biggrin:

Edit: Why do you think it's 'dangerous'?

 

[LordOpie]

Skimmed it. This is the internet right? :biggrin:

Edit: Why do you think it's 'dangerous'?

I haven't thought it through, but how about drugs...

If an employee goes to Canada and marries a same sex partner, then Israel's forced to recognize it. What if the same employee goes to Amsterdam for a week, gets totally baked, comes home and is fired by his employer for a failed drug test. Seems like such a precedent would force Israel to force the employer to overlook the failed test since the employee was in a country where it's legal.

Did that make sense?

 

[dante]

"We don't have a Jewish state here. We have Sodom and Gomorrah here," said Moshe Gafni, an ultra-Orthodox lawmaker, referring to two cities the Bible said was destroyed because their citizens were so sinful.

so we get to rape Lot's virgin teenage daughters????

 

[Changleen]

I haven't thought it through, but how about drugs...

If an employee goes to Canada and marries a same sex partner, then Israel's forced to recognize it. What if the same employee goes to Amsterdam for a week, gets totally baked, comes home and is fired by his employer for a failed drug test. Seems like such a precedent would force Israel to force the employer to overlook the failed test since the employee was in a country where it's legal.

Did that make sense?

Pretty much, but:

1) Hopefully if you could prove you took the drugs where it was legal, that would be OK, provided you were not still under the influence of them.

2) I can see the drug argument is much stronger because being stoned out of your gourd is a potential hazard to yourself, your company and people around you, where as you choice of life partner doesn't actually pose a threat to anyone, other than the mental health of crazy orthodox-jewish guy, but he's pretty far gone anyway.

 

[Changleen]

so we get to rape Lot's virgin teenage daughters????

Go right ahead but FYI, no longer virgins, no longer teenage, and unlikely to put up much resistance. Or have any skin.

 

[Silver]

that's dumb.

If the state doesn't recognize gay marriages internally, then they shouldn't recognize them from other countries. For one thing, it sets up all sorts of dangerous precedents for other issues, laws, whatever that Israel doesn't recognize to be forced on the state. Another is, how are gay people who are poor supposed take advantage of this ruling?

A little update:

I just found out (and had no idea) that Israel doesn't have civil marriage for anyone. But they do apparently recognize heterosexual civil marriage done outside the country...which sheds a lot of light on this court ruling.

Make sense?