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We should give America back to the Indians.

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Ok, not really.

Iraq invaded Kuwait and we made them give it back.

Q: How long does a group of people have to hold a piece of land to declare that the land (rightfully?) belongs to them now?
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
Originally posted by LordOpie
Q: How long does a group of people have to hold a piece of land to declare that the land (rightfully?) belongs to them now?
answer the darn question.
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
19,180
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TN
Um,

I think there is no specific time limit...only that the time comes when youve truly broken the spirit of the invaded people to the point that theyre no longer really capable of properly running the said taken land to the invader's advantage.
 
Originally posted by LordOpie
Ok, not really.

Iraq invaded Kuwait and we made them give it back.

Q: How long does a group of people have to hold a piece of land to declare that the land (rightfully?) belongs to them now?
Seems that throughout history, the rule was as long as they can hold onto it, it is their's. Tied in with that was the rule that no one's land is their's forever. Someone has always come along and taken it.
 

charmin

Monkey
Dec 8, 2003
136
0
Originally posted by CRUM
Seems that throughout history, the rule was as long as they can hold onto it, it is their's. Tied in with that was the rule that no one's land is their's forever. Someone has always come along and taken it.
I agree with CRUM -- the "rule" seems to be if you can hold onto it it's yours. Doesn't make it fair.... and other countries helping you out (to get your land back) is part of the deal nowadays...
 

jdcamb

Tool Time!
Feb 17, 2002
20,067
8,816
Nowhere Man!
It works like this.....

If your a First World nation you can do anything you want but just need a occupying army. You get to not only keep and control the land but you also get to enslave the population and rape its resources.....

If you are Second World nation you can only occupy the land, but you need a friend on the UN Security commision to invade in the first place. Only the UN can occupy the land for a extended period of time after the initial occupation. Oh yeah after you invade and occupy the land you need to commit some level of genocide before the UN gets there. You also have to share the fruits of the enslavement of its people and sell the resources to a friendly First World country in some sort of backroom deal.....

If your a Third World country you have no rights to do anything other then Ethnic Cleansing of Ethnic groups you don't belong too. The only consolation to that is you don't actually need a valid excuse to perform genocide. You can make that up as you go along.....

Those are the International rules for invading and occupying foriegn lands. Time has no purpose here unless you get a lot of bad press then you can pull the WMD trump card....jdcamb
 

DHRacer

The Rev
Oct 8, 2001
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you know... i think the whole thing with the Native American Indians and "we want our land back" is a load of BS... just like the whole whale hunting issue... I mean, okay, back in the day, it was a necessity of survival. But now, today... NO... it's just a stage to make an issue of something.

you know what really gets me, and if this offends anyone I'm truly sorry... but you'll get if over it.

this whole thing about being Hispanic-American, African-American, "whatever-American... what the HELL? If you came over on a boat, or smuggled in on a truck, and want citizenship, great, glad to have have you. but if you are a citizen of this country, you are an AMERICAN... if you were born here, and you are black, red, brown, blue, yellow, pink, whatever... you are an AMERICAN! plain and simple if we all took it to that degree, there isn't one person that's doesnt' have some ethnic mix in them.

and i'm sorry, but the "black" card is being WAY over played... I don't know if any of you watch The Apprentice? the Donald Trump reality show... but there were two women who really don't get along, both strong minded and smart... well they argue a lot and one of the woman said something that was pretty hypocritcal, and the other said, "well that's like the pot calling the kettle black".... and BLAM! she was all over that with a come back of "what are you saying about me being black? oh so you're racist? etc... " unbelieveable! i'm so sick and tired of hearing from everyone of every "ethnicity" that they want equality, but are the frist to demand special treatment... they want unity but then sperate themselves... it's just plain BS.

people are people... we're not colors

sorry, rant over... i need to quit watching the news.

start acting like people.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
6
Originally posted by DHRacer
you know what really gets me, and if this offends anyone I'm truly sorry... but you'll get if over it.

this whole thing about being Hispanic-American, African-American, "whatever-American... what the HELL? If you came over on a boat, or smuggled in on a truck, and want citizenship, great, glad to have have you. but if you are a citizen of this country, you are an AMERICAN... if you were born here, and you are black, red, brown, blue, yellow, pink, whatever... you are an AMERICAN!
do you mean to imply that John F-ing Kerry's wife (tereeeezuh) isn't african american?
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
6
Originally posted by jdcamb
It works like this.....

If your a First World nation...

If you are Second World nation...

If your a Third World country...
and if you're a palestinian (a term only coined in the prev century), you can claim to be indigenous, even though you most likely came from other countries over the past couple of generations. According to the ottoman census figures for 1882, the Land of Israel (larger than today's israel) was 141,000. Yet, somehow, they managed to "reproduce" to over a million people by 1938. This translates to roughly an 800% increase in 56 years.

We shouldn't give the land back to the indigenous (indians) any more than israel should "give back" to the supposed arab settlers.
 

charmin

Monkey
Dec 8, 2003
136
0
Originally posted by $tinkle
do you mean to imply that John F-ing Kerry's wife (tereeeezuh) isn't african american?
Teresa is well loved -- that article is great -- she is wonderful. She was very well respected in Pittsburgh (where Senator Heinz was from) and she would've won had she run.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
Originally posted by $tinkle
Yet, somehow, they managed to "reproduce" to over a million people by 1938. This translates to roughly an 800% increase in 56 years.
That'd be more like 900% since an eighth of their population are terrorists who blow themselves up. Did I just say that? Oh my, that was so wrong of me.

It's ok tho, I had Subway for lunch! :D
 

Sideways

Monkey
Jun 8, 2002
375
2
Asheville, North Carolina
Originally posted by charmin
Teresa is well loved -- that article is great -- she is wonderful. She was very well respected in Pittsburgh (where Senator Heinz was from) and she would've won had she run.
She, and his previous wife are combined the bulk of where Kerry's power come from.
 

shocktower

Monkey
Sep 7, 2001
622
0
Molalla Oregon
Originally posted by DHRacer
you know... i think the whole thing with the Native American Indians and "we want our land back" is a load of BS... just like the whole whale hunting issue... I mean, okay, back in the day, it was a necessity of survival. But now, today... NO... it's just a stage to make an issue of something.

you know what really gets me, and if this offends anyone I'm truly sorry... but you'll get if over it.

this whole thing about being Hispanic-American, African-American, "whatever-American... what the HELL? If you came over on a boat, or smuggled in on a truck, and want citizenship, great, glad to have have you. but if you are a citizen of this country, you are an AMERICAN... if you were born here, and you are black, red, brown, blue, yellow, pink, whatever... you are an AMERICAN! plain and simple if we all took it to that degree, there isn't one person that's doesnt' have some ethnic mix in them.

and i'm sorry, but the "black" card is being WAY over played... I don't know if any of you watch The Apprentice? the Donald Trump reality show... but there were two women who really don't get along, both strong minded and smart... well they argue a lot and one of the woman said something that was pretty hypocritcal, and the other said, "well that's like the pot calling the kettle black".... and BLAM! she was all over that with a come back of "what are you saying about me being black? oh so you're racist? etc... " unbelieveable! i'm so sick and tired of hearing from everyone of every "ethnicity" that they want equality, but are the frist to demand special treatment... they want unity but then sperate themselves... it's just plain BS.

people are people... we're not colors

sorry, rant over... i need to quit watching the news.

start acting like people.

We are on the same page :eek: :eek: ,I`am sick and tired of peoples wanting to be their own ,if your born any where else your that nationality but not here :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
40,205
9,098
Originally posted by shocktower
We are on the same page :eek: :eek: ,I`am sick and tired of peoples wanting to be their own ,if your born any where else your that nationality but not here :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
what about naturalized american citizens? hmm?