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sanjuro

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C.I.A. Detainees Sent to Guantánamo
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 2:32 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush on Wednesday acknowledged the existence of previously secret CIA prisons around the world and said 14 high-value terrorism suspects -- including the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks -- have been transferred from the system to Guantanamo Bay for trials.

He said the ''small number'' of detainees that have been kept in CIA custody include people responsible for the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000 in Yemen and the 1998 attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, in addition to the 2001 attacks.

''The most important source of information on where the terrorists are hiding and what they are planning is the terrorists themselves,'' Bush said in a White House speech with families of those killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks making up part of the audience. ''It has been necessary to move these individuals to an environment where they can be held in secret, questioned by experts and, when appropriate, prosecuted for terrorist acts.''

The announcement from Bush is the first time the administration has acknowledged the existence of CIA prisons, which have been a source of friction between Washington and some allies in Europe. The administration has come under criticism for its treatment of terrorism detainees. European Union lawmakers said the CIA was conducting clandestine flights in Europe to take terror suspects to countries where they could face torture.

Bush said the CIA program has involved such suspected terrorists as Khalid Sheik Mohammed, believed to be the No. 3 al-Qaida leader before he was captured in Pakistan in 2003; Ramzi Binalshibh, an alleged would-be Sept. 11, 2001, hijacker; Abu Zubaydah, who was believed to be a link between Osama bin Laden and many al-Qaida cells before he was also captured in Pakistan, in March 2002.

The list also includes Riduan Isamuddin, known additionally as Hambali, who was suspected of being Jemaah Islamiyah's main link to al-Qaida and the mastermind of a string of deadly bomb attacks in Indonesia until his 2003 arrest in Thailand.

Defending the program, the president said the questioning of these detainees has provided critical intelligence information about terrorist activities that have enabled officials to prevent attacks not only in the United States, but Europe and other countries. He said the program has been reviewed by administration lawyers and been the subject of strict oversight from within the CIA.

Bush would not detail the type of interrogation techniques that are used through the program, saying they are tough but do not constitute torture.

''This program has helped us to take potential mass murderers off the streets before they have a chance to kill,'' the president said. ''It is invaluable to America and our allies.''

The president's announcement, which the White House touted beforehand and asked to be televised live on the networks, comes as Bush has sought with a series of speeches to sharpen the focus on national security two months before high-stakes congressional elections.

The president successfully emphasized the war on terror in his re-election campaign in 2004 and is trying to make it a winning issue again for Republicans this year.

The president said the 14 key terrorist leaders, including Mohammed, Binalshibh, and Zubaydah, that have been transferred to the U.S. military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay would be afforded some legal protections consistent with the Geneva conventions.

''They will continue to be treated with the humanity that they denied others,'' Bush said.

Bush also laid out his proposal for how trials of such key suspected terrorists -- those transferred to Guantanamo and already there -- should be conducted, which must be approved by Congress. Bush's original plan for the type of military trials used in the aftermath of World War II was struck down in June by the Supreme Court, which said the tribunals would violate U.S. and international law.

Aides said the legislation being introduced on Bush's behalf later Wednesday on Capitol Hill insists on provisions covering military tribunals that would permit evidence to be withheld from a defendant if necessary to protect classified information.
 

RenegadeRick

98th percentile on my SAT & all I got was this tin
C.I.A. Detainees Sent to Guantánamo
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 2:32 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush on Wednesday acknowledged the existence of previously secret CIA prisons around the world and said 14 high-value terrorism suspects -- including the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks -- have been transferred from the system to Guantanamo Bay for trials.
So Bin Ladin has been in a secret CIA prison all along?

Maybe we should have told all our dead soldiers and the American taxpayers who have spent Billions looking for him in Afganistan.
 

jimmydean

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Sep 10, 2001
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What happend to "We are a country of laws..." crap they have been feeding us all these years?

What do I know, I'm a member of the "anti-American Left" :D
 

sanjuro

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depends... are they 'our' dictator or not..?
what about the citizens who live under a dictatorship?

to quote a famous filmmaker,

"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."
 

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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N8, how many times must you be lied to by the administration before you pull your head out of the sand?
 

N8 v2.0

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Oct 18, 2002
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N8, how many times must you be lied to by the administration before you pull your head out of the sand?
name one administration that hasn't lied to the citizens of the US since I was born... Johnson - Bush Jr.

nothing to get all excited about now.. well maybe if your a n00b..
 

sanjuro

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name one administration that hasn't lied to the citizens of the US since I was born... Johnson - Bush Jr.

nothing to get all excited about now.. well maybe if your a n00b..
That's a bad point. For example, Eisenhowser lied about the U2 spy plane, but one could argue that was the benefit of America. Clinton's lies about his affairs, but that was more to protect himself and the image of the president.

Bush's "secret CIA prisons" and his lies about that really make me think, whose next?
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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That's a bad point. For example, Eisenhowser lied about the U2 spy plane, but one could argue that was the benefit of America. Clinton's lies about his affairs, but that was more to protect himself and the image of the president.

Bush's "secret CIA prisons" and his lies about that really make me think, whose next?
You could find much better examples than that....
 

Slugman

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Apr 29, 2004
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terrorists get no privlages here.
Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
Function: noun
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

To me that sounds like what the Bush administration has done for the past 5 years.

The definition just says the USE of terror... not the act.

name one administration that hasn't lied to the citizens of the US since I was born... Johnson - Bush Jr.

nothing to get all excited about now.. well maybe if your a n00b..
So you admit that this administration is lying - yet you regurgitate every one of their arguments.

So you know you are lying, yet you ask us to prove that your administration did anything wrong.

Bravo!

Where is that damn rep button, someone deserves a positive rep for that boldness – and for being the troll master!