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Well it's official...(Romic bashers feel free to vent some frustration)

ChrisRobin

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Jan 30, 2002
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To put it mildly...I'm very "unsatisfied" with Romic shocks. My first Romic shock on my Nucleon worked great for a while but then started leaking from the compression knob. Ok, no time and $$$ to send it out to California so I'll just buy a second one! I got another one about 3 or 4 weeks ago but haven't had time to go riding. I go look at my bike tonight and lo and behold!!! The rebound damping doesn't work!!! That's 2 for 2!!

Ironically, in the past my S7 has always given me problems but this season it's been really soft and smoothe.
 

Smelly

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Jun 17, 2004
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Chris- the dials on Romic shocks are just for looks. they don't do anything on my shock and i've heard the same from some other people. mine has blown twice since i got it, and even after romic rebuilds it those dials don't do a damn thing. oh yeah, i should mention that the shock is currently on its way out again. went for a ride yesterday and towards the end it was making that dreaded *schluuuuck* noise. went out for a couple hours today, and it's still doing it. no oil leaking yet though.
so i bought my Saber last april. blown it 3 times since then, and i didn't ride the bike from november-april this winter. piece o crap. gotta find me a different shock.
 

Bicyclist

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Apr 4, 2004
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See, I was always under the impression that Romic shocks were really good. I guess not.
 

kidwoo

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Acadian said:
?? you mean you didn't even ride your's bike and the rebound isn't working??
It was still stuck in the rafters from when it jumped off of the floor after he pressed on the seat. Obviously the damping doesn't work yet.

I hear you have to soak them in rubber cement to get the knobs to work, because they obviously don't do anything.......except for the one on your (luc) bike, the three that I've had, and the one on my buddies specialized sx. Actually it's quite odd that the only ones that actually have functioning rebound dampers are all people I know. How lucky. Sounds like a job for Moulder and Scully.........
 

zedro

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Sep 14, 2001
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twice bitten....

can you fit an 8.75/2.75" in the infinit adjustment matrix? i'm sure Shawinigan can lend you his spare to keep your bike on the trails for now. Speaking of which, can you go riding anytime this week?
 

Smelly

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Jun 17, 2004
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kidwoo said:
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Actually it's quite odd that the only ones that actually have functioning rebound dampers are all people I know. How lucky.
dunno if that's sarcasm or not, but other people have felt mine, played with the knobs, and commented that they don't do anything (so i'm not a stoopid noob who just can't tell the difference). i also have a friend who has two of them and love 'em. to me, that says something pretty serious about their quality control.
 

Damn True

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Sep 10, 2001
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ChrisRobin said:
To put it mildly...I'm very "unsatisfied" with Romic shocks. My first Romic shock on my Nucleon worked great for a while but then started leaking from the compression knob. Ok, no time and $$$ to send it out to California so I'll just buy a second one! I got another one about 3 or 4 weeks ago but haven't had time to go riding. I go look at my bike tonight and lo and behold!!! The rebound damping doesn't work!!! That's 2 for 2!!

Ironically, in the past my S7 has always given me problems but this season it's been really soft and smoothe.
Mine works great. Well over two years and no problemo.
Here's a shot of it at Whistler, albeit w/o me. Loaned my bike to my room mate.
 

Jm_

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squarewheels said:
dunno if that's sarcasm or not, but other people have felt mine, played with the knobs, and commented that they don't do anything (so i'm not a stoopid noob who just can't tell the difference). i also have a friend who has two of them and love 'em. to me, that says something pretty serious about their quality control.
The knobs should do a lot, but one problem is the spring behind the little ball-bearing thing that controls the "bob", evidently one of the major problems with romic is that this spring wears out easily, and leaves you with no adjustment with the compression knob. This happened to mine the first time. It didn't "blow" persay, but the effectivness of the adjustment gradually got less and less untill one day I realized it didn't do anything.
 

Brian HCM#1

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Damn True said:
Mine works great. Well over two years and no problemo.
Here's a shot of it at Whistler, albeit w/o me. Loaned my bike to my room mate.
A no, thats you just riding down the hill cause you're so fat and they don't make a spring heavy enough to support your weight. So True, when you going to N*?
 

kidwoo

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squarewheels said:
dunno if that's sarcasm or not, but other people have felt mine, played with the knobs, and commented that they don't do anything (so i'm not a stoopid noob who just can't tell the difference). i also have a friend who has two of them and love 'em. to me, that says something pretty serious about their quality control.
I've dated girls who showed no change in behavior after playing with their knobs but that doesn't mean the same thing applies for all of them.

Yeah it's sarcasm. Sounds like you've got a freak on your hands. But the blanket statement that "they don't do anything" referring to both adjusters is an incorrect one. The inconsistency I've seen in those shocks typically didn't involve the rebound dampers. They were the only things that did work predictably.
 

ChrisRobin

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Jan 30, 2002
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zedro said:
twice bitten....

can you fit an 8.75/2.75" in the infinit adjustment matrix? i'm sure Shawinigan can lend you his spare to keep your bike on the trails for now. Speaking of which, can you go riding anytime this week?
The standard Fox RC is what's supposed to be in there in the first place. I'll give him a call. The next day I can go is Friday. Everything's been crazy lately.
 

bizutch

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Dec 11, 2001
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Our team has had two seasons on them non-stop and I've got to say I've been semi-blessed with mine. We all got the batch from last year that had the threaded hole for the compression damper drilled too big for the O-ring to seal. Mailed it back, they corrected it ASAP. Same thing to all of our team. They worked fine for the remainder of the season. I'm the only one of us who kept their shock from last year and it works great still.

....bbbuuuuuttt, thus far this year I've seen 2 eat it like no other. Tom V's shaft unthreaded from the housing at the compression knob, then last weekend Mike from GA's developed some weird dead spot of about an inch of no damping...a weird dead spot in the travel.

Romic's stuff works great for me...but those guys have got to get some QA going ASAP before their rep gets too damaged. It would be a shame to see them fail b/c of this stuff.
 

Fulton

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kidwoo said:
I've dated girls who showed no change in behavior after playing with their knobs but that doesn't mean the same thing applies for all of them.
Did they blow? How much riding time did you get on them? Pictures dammit, we need pictures!
 

Fulton

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oh, and romic has been ok to me. The only problem I've had is with their damn shock bushings. We ordered a few shocks from them, and they bushings have play in them straight from the factory. They seem to ride pretty well, though we've only been on'em about 3 months.
 

buildyourown

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Feb 9, 2004
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I have heard some strange stories about Romic stuff being bad from the start. I think this is just lack of QC. QC is very expensive and hard for a small company to do. I have to give props there CS though. Sat at Whistler my friends shock has a strange top out symptom. We decide to ride down and swap out my shock for his so he can race. Smitty form Romic just happened to be standing 20ft away and saw us pointing at the bike and came over and asked if we had shock troubles. He told us to meet him in the lot and he would swap out the shock. 20min later, my mate is riding. Granted, we both had Romic on our jerseys, but he still went WAY out of his way. Thanks Smitty.
 

bpatterson6

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Jul 1, 2004
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Thats the first I have ever heard of ROMIC having alot of problems.
Looks like I made made the right decision to get my Vanilla RC "PUSHed".
Jimmy at PUSH told me that he and another guy that run PUSH used to work For Romic. The Turner Factory Team is using PUSHed Vanilla RC's this year and they Rave about them.

I too hope Romic gets some better QA. It would definately be sad to see them go down due to damaged reps.

:D

In the Meantime...
http://www.PushIndustries.com
 

crashing_sux

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Jul 17, 2002
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I wish I would have known the Romic guys were around. I bought my bike with a blown Romic (don't they all come that way?) so I sent it back to them to get rebuilt. $50 and a couple of weeks later I finally ended up getting the shock back Friday.

This probably isn't going to surprise anyone (certainly not me) but after putting it on a buddies Iron Horse SGS for the weekend it lasted a whopping 1.5 days of riding in Whistler before spewing oil all over his frame.

They better not even consider charging me to rebuild it again, hopefully I'll get it back soon so I can sell it to some schmuck who read on Ridemonkey how great Romics are. Well, some other schmuck that is.




buildyourown said:
I have heard some strange stories about Romic stuff being bad from the start. I think this is just lack of QC. QC is very expensive and hard for a small company to do. I have to give props there CS though. Sat at Whistler my friends shock has a strange top out symptom. We decide to ride down and swap out my shock for his so he can race. Smitty form Romic just happened to be standing 20ft away and saw us pointing at the bike and came over and asked if we had shock troubles. He told us to meet him in the lot and he would swap out the shock. 20min later, my mate is riding. Granted, we both had Romic on our jerseys, but he still went WAY out of his way. Thanks Smitty.
 

1000-Oaks

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May 8, 2003
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Jm_ said:
The knobs should do a lot, but one problem is the spring behind the little ball-bearing thing that controls the "bob", evidently one of the major problems with romic is that this spring wears out easily, and leaves you with no adjustment with the compression knob. This happened to mine the first time. It didn't "blow" persay, but the effectivness of the adjustment gradually got less and less untill one day I realized it didn't do anything.
You know, mine seems to be doing that. When it seemed like the anti-bob was disappearing I thought it was just my imagination. Huh. I've only ridden mine for a few months (summer '03), then I took out my ACL in September '03 and am only now starting to ride again. Just easy fire roads, gotta build the leg back up.
 

1000-Oaks

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May 8, 2003
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Well it's official, the compression knob doesn't do anything anymore and the shock seems to be leaking oil from the limit screw under the compression knob. Might have air in it too, been so long since I was riding I can't remember if it made that "squishing" sound or not.

Good thing I kept the Fox for down-times like these...I'm sure Romic will take care of it though.
 

DH Dad

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This may explain why the rebound and Compression knobs on mine don't appear to do anything. My Fox RC on my '00 DHR at least had functional adjustable compression. I haven't spent too much time pondering it though since my DHR would probably do me fine with simply a shaft and a spring back there, the frame design makes up for a lot. On my RFX I'm so happy I chose the Avy!
 

Jeremy R

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DH Dad said:
This may explain why the rebound and Compression knobs on mine don't appear to do anything. My Fox RC on my '00 DHR at least had functional adjustable compression. I haven't spent too much time pondering it though since my DHR would probably do me fine with simply a shaft and a spring back there, the frame design makes up for a lot. On my RFX I'm so happy I chose the Avy!
The longer stroke on the DHR also contributes to the adjustments not doing much. Luckily, mine feels great the way it is, because I can't change it.
I have not turned a knob on it since May!
Now the Romic on my 5-spot, I can a feel a big difference with a couple of clicks of either adjustment.
I am paranoid to touch them though, so I just set them up and ride them now. ;)
 

DH Dad

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Jeremy R said:
The longer stroke on the DHR also contributes to the adjustments not doing much. Luckily, mine feels great the way it is, because I can't change it.
I have not turned a knob on it since May!
Now the Romic on my 5-spot, I can a feel a big difference with a couple of clicks of either adjustment.
I am paranoid to touch them though, so I just set them up and ride them now. ;)
I too am paranoid to touch them since the knob simply fell off in my teammates hand. I've got a new 5-spot I'm building for my wife, I'll have to try to adjust that up front and then leave it where it is.
 

trailpoacher

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Aug 19, 2004
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never had any issues with my Romic.
might be because the f4 is low leverage and is really easy on rear shocks.
Also my romic came with a red rebound knob. might be newer version?
anyone with the silver rebound knob usually had leakage issues i noticed.
I think thats what the romic press release was about from last year. bad batch or something. my spring rate was too soft for a year and I would bottom it out sometimes. bushings needed replacement alittle more often than other shocks Ive owned. customer service not bad in my experience. took 2 phone calls to get someone live and it was a woman who took down my # and I got a call back later that afternoon by a tech guy who was more than helpful. sent me a new spring and some bushings for a good rate.
shock works great too. very predictable action. no buck. takes a good hit.
reminds me of the avalanche a bit. a real oil bathe feel. takes a hit really well and bobs ever so slightly in sprints but makes up for that by taking everything I could throw at it. :devil:
 

Jm_

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Jan 14, 2002
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Sorry trailpoacher, it is hit and miss, but the leaking compression adjuster is a cover story to try and mask larger problems that they have. It is true that this is one of the problems, but the spring wearing out and leaving you with no compression adjustment is another, shafts unthreading from the piston is yet another, piston drag causing failure is yet another that is not related to the compression adjuster leaking, not to mention that romic lied to me about the compression adjuster problem.

Some people have good luck with them, they still have pretty good customer service, but they have serious issues with the product, I do not think anyone can deny that now.
 

ChrisRobin

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Jan 30, 2002
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Ha, this thread came back up...

Well I think they might be getting their acts together as far as responding to customers. I stated in another thread that I emailed Romic asking something and they responded within 20min. Pretty damn good.

Although I still don't feel like sending shocks out to the other side of the continent so at this point I'm selling what I own in Romic shocks for dirt cheap and try to pick something else up.

edit. To anyone that does want to try Romic out, their shocks do feel really really good when they're working right.
 

Hrelp

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Feb 23, 2004
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Having my Romic blow up twice they offered to sell me one as a spare for 180 but they didn't even have them in stock so that didn't help speed things up any.