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You're doing it wrong.
Good news from PUSH for those of us with standard-sized shocks:
http://www.bikerumor.com/2016/04/01/push-industrys-new-ovo-kit-brave-new-metric-world/
http://www.bikerumor.com/2016/04/01/push-industrys-new-ovo-kit-brave-new-metric-world/
It is kind of stupid to use a linear damping device on a linkage that has several rotation components. I see the future in rotary dampers like was used in pre-war formula 1. Directly integrated into the frame this would free up a lot of space for e-bike batteries.
Rejoice heathens, your prayers have been heard, here's the first commercially available metric shock and I believe it can be adjusted to multiple sizes, too.
It does stick a fist up the end user if/when older specs quality parts(shock, tires etc) becomes hard to sources. Especially when you like keeping your stuff for a few years. The reality of many riders is that buying bike parts as to have a balance between performance and purchase/maintenance/replacement rate cost. That said, I realize that is definitely not a universal perspective and some will have the means (or give a higher priority) to go for the best performing components no matter what the cost is. Disclosure though : I am not an engineer.
Combine it to this:It is kind of stupid to use a linear damping device on a linkage that has several rotation components. I see the future in rotary dampers like was used in pre-war formula 1. Directly integrated into the frame this would free up a lot of space for e-bike batteries.
and take the stupid linear shock off the equation!
what?
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/rockshoxs-new-super-deluxe-shock-first-ride-2016.html
so they go to metric.... and still didn't get it right?
body diameter 28.5 ??? why not 30?
shaft 12.7 ????? why not.... 13?
and they also got the stroke shorter!!!!!!
you are killing me here
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/rockshoxs-new-super-deluxe-shock-first-ride-2016.html
so they go to metric.... and still didn't get it right?
body diameter 28.5 ??? why not 30?
shaft 12.7 ????? why not.... 13?
and they also got the stroke shorter!!!!!!
you are killing me here
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Because millimeters. Those are very important sub-multiples of the allmighty meter.what?
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/rockshoxs-new-super-deluxe-shock-first-ride-2016.html
so they go to metric.... and still didn't get it right?
body diameter 28.5 ??? why not 30?
shaft 12.7 ????? whay not.... 13?
you are killing me here
Also:
Longer eye to eye length, less stroke length.
And those names...
Now if you want to buy a Rockshox damper you feel like you are in a McDonalds.
Edit: Oh sorry, regarding eye to eye length vs. stroke length I forgot about the "Trunnion mount".
Longer eye to eye length, less stroke length.
And those names...
Now if you want to buy a Rockshox damper you feel like you are in a McDonalds.
Edit: Oh sorry, regarding eye to eye length vs. stroke length I forgot about the "Trunnion mount".
Anyone else notice the use of normal du bushings? Didn't we get away from those?
And the longer bushing overlap is a poor solution to another problem, but I've said too much.
And the longer bushing overlap is a poor solution to another problem, but I've said too much.
Since they are clearly aimed at the dentist market, they should have called them "The Incisor", "The Molar", ...
RUX system: FUX (fork) + SUX (shock)If this industry was serious about performance gains, they would have minaturized a RUX for use as a rear shock long ago... But nooooooo, they simply boostardized the barely rideable standard air shock...
Their idea of going metric seems to be simply converting their existing imperial units hardware into the equivalent metric units... so that 0.5inch shaft is now 12.7mm. They did not redesign their hardware around metric units. Fun!what?
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/rockshoxs-new-super-deluxe-shock-first-ride-2016.html
so they go to metric.... and still didn't get it right?
body diameter 28.5 ??? why not 30?
shaft 12.7 ????? why not.... 13?
and they also got the stroke shorter!!!!!!
you are killing me here
Just like every other SRAM press release. In this case they just wanted to reinforce the stereotype, hence the release date.what the fuk just happened i thought that was an april fools joke
You and me both, brotherwhat the fuk just happened i wished that was an april fools joke
so is it just me, or is something wrong with that PB article? re: metric sizes, it says:
"Long story short, there is more shock stroke per eye-to-eye length."
but then the tables below seem to indicate the opposite, that there's LESS stroke per eye to eye length.
ie old sizing: 190 x 50.8, new sizing 190 x 45
this seems to indicate LESS stroke per eye to eye length. or am i interpreting this wrong?
"Long story short, there is more shock stroke per eye-to-eye length."
but then the tables below seem to indicate the opposite, that there's LESS stroke per eye to eye length.
ie old sizing: 190 x 50.8, new sizing 190 x 45
this seems to indicate LESS stroke per eye to eye length. or am i interpreting this wrong?
I read it like this: bike brands should go with one size bigger shocks. 190x45 should be replacing the old 165x38. But still, you are right. The stroke is shorter when related to the total length.
just make the change, we'll figure out how to explain it later - the bike industry.
and don't worry about naming it, we got that.
That's why they introduced the "Trunnion mount" too. Whatever the hell that is...
Nowadays we seriously get to a point that you cannot buy a frame and built it up from the ground.
Imagine all the backsendings to your onlineshops due to false orders of BBs, shocks, hubs and whatnot...
And when you finally get to the point to ride your new bike out of the garage you realize that you falsely ordered the 27+ (29er) frame version, and you can't even pedal it around the streets because your pedals hit the floor due to your unrideable and outdated 26" wheelset.
no, because i just did that with a banshee. takes a bit more homework, but still doable.
Time to put SRAM on the ignore list. This is ridiculous.
Will RockShox still sell original sized shocks? Yes, they will. RockShox will offer legacy rear shocks until demand decreases, which they forecast to be around four or five years. Basically, they do plan to support the market until the market is no longer there.
Will RockShox still sell original sized shocks? Yes, they will. RockShox will offer legacy rear shocks until demand decreases, which they forecast to be around four or five years. Basically, they do plan to support the market until the market is no longer there.
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They haven't put out a new standard that requires a hole new bike in at least 6 months. This was long over due. Bring on the E-plus metric boost frames!
That's a nice opportunity to review prices and their development. The '97 Super Deluxe is similar in features to the '16 Kage RC regarding adjustments and material. So we have two more or less comparable products.just make the change, we'll figure out how to explain it later - the bike industry.
and don't worry about naming it, we got that.
At first glance I thought the $289 price tag to be rather cheap. So I took the annual avg inflation rates and calculated the value today.
year inflation avg $289,00
1998 1,6 $293,62
1999 2,2 $300,08
2000 3,4 $310,29
2001 2,8 $318,97
2002 1,6 $324,08
2003 2,3 $331,53
2004 2,7 $340,48
2005 3,4 $352,06
2006 3,2 $363,33
2007 2,8 $373,50
2008 3,8 $387,69
2009 -0,4 $386,14
2010 1,6 $392,32
2011 3,2 $404,87
2012 2,1 $413,38
2013 1,5 $419,58
2014 1,6 $426,29
2015 0,1 $426,72
2016 $426,72
2016 Kage RC retails at fucking $265.
Pricing rant destroyed
Edit: I'm too stupid to post a fact sheet table, sorry
But you're comparing near bottom end and top of the line back in 97. It's true that the features are similar, but the super deluxe was the best rs had back then. A better comparison would be to a vivid, I think.
Seriously Sram is the Donald Trump of mountain biking. Every time they announce anything you assume it's too stupid to be real but it is and it makes you want to move.
Good job bike industry. I guess I won't buy new bike for another year. Jesus I used to be the guy who bought a ton of new bike parts every season for 3 different bikes. Now I ride a 6 year old bike where the newest part is a 3 year old db air. When I need an enduro bike I just beg my editor for a test bike. When will this BS stop? So far we have 1 new standard per year. That is a bit silly.
Good job bike industry. I guess I won't buy new bike for another year. Jesus I used to be the guy who bought a ton of new bike parts every season for 3 different bikes. Now I ride a 6 year old bike where the newest part is a 3 year old db air. When I need an enduro bike I just beg my editor for a test bike. When will this BS stop? So far we have 1 new standard per year. That is a bit silly.