[toodles]

Lots of stuff

Hey thanks bud, appreciate the intelligent reply.

I'm aware that I might have a one-off bad hub, but the seals are intact and I probably only get maybe 8 - 10 muddy rides a year. Nevertheless, the freehub has required stripping, cleaning and rebuilding several times to allow the pawls to properly engage. Buying replacement parts in Australia is more expensive than getting a new hub from overseas, so next time I get a wheel built I'd say I'll just ditch the thing and try something new.

For comparison, prices here in Aussie dollars...

Hope Pro II 150mm- $246
Hadley 150mm - $580
DT 440 - $249
King - Can't find a price on the 150mm but the 135mm ISO is $799

 

[IH8Rice]

ill take your Hadley hub off your hands when you get rid of it.

you dont want it, theyre junk i heard

 

[bansheefr]

I'll be riding this in 2009... Changes to include fresh powder coat, Vivid/Obtainium spring and 2010 Boxxer.

 

[bpatterson6]

My 2009 Race Bike. 39.5lbs.

 

[IH8Rice]

I'll be riding this in 2009... Changes to include fresh powder coat, Vivid/Obtainium spring and 2010 Boxxer.

ahh the trusty hammer. perfect in the assembly of any quality bicycle

 

[dhr-racer]

mine...

05 DHR
08 Boxxer team
Gap cranks
Blakspire DS1 w/36t ring
105 derailer
e-13 direct mount
729's on ringle abbas
ringle zuzu flats/ time atac z's
hayes mags
etc

and yes that seats comin off....

im picking up an 04 tazer this week for a trail rig, post some pics later this week

 

[rewster]

Hey thanks bud, appreciate the intelligent reply.

the coveted

 

[Huck Banzai]

If only there was a class on trying to think before you type. Tard. Servicing is easy - just the intervals are ridiculous compared to offerings that cost half as much.



Bearings are pretty much fine, they seem to last ok. Just the freehub continually gets gunked up and starts slipping. Doesn't take long to fix, just very annoying that $100 hubs manage to have less issues than $400 hubs.

Thanks for the revealing response. I dont seem to have these issues, also revealing.

 

[toodles]

Thanks for the revealing response. I dont seem to have these issues, also revealing.

Neither do most Hadley owners, nor the owners of most brands of hub.

At the risk of being drawn into a debate on the merits of the brand, I'm simply stating my disappointment that a hub that costs so much, has given me many more problems than any other hub I've ever run. Given the many dedicated Hadley owners out there, I've probably gotten the .01% of their hubs that has had a problem.

I've gotta say that your insinuation that I don't know how to service a friggin hub is interesting, and certainly not the kind of assumption that anyone capable of rational assessment would make.

 

[Udi]

Servicing is easy - just the intervals are ridiculous compared to offerings that cost half as much.

I think it's a little unfair that a few of you are calling toodles a "douche" and whatnot, when he's just being honest about a product that he owns and paid good money for. Perhaps it was unnecessary in this thread, but regardless, at least have some respect for his honesty over the usual "I paid $300 for this and therefore it's the best" mentality that usually reigns.

My personal experience with hadley hubs is summed up by what I quoted above. Yes they're okay, yes they engage fast, but they have much shorter service intervals than products that cost half as much.

My 108 was ticking away fine until I took it on its first muddy/wet ride. Next time I went to pull the bike out, the freehub had seized. Cause? Poor needle bearing lubrication job from factory, and poor choice of bearing for a poorly sealed freehub body in the first place. Sealed cartridge bearings would reduce the critcality of external seals, and maybe if they are going to use a fragile needle bearing, they should seal things better. If moisture didn't get in there in the first place, then the light factory lubrication job wouldn't have been an issue, so the fault lies more in the hub design than the hub assembly in my opinion.

Furthermore, the bearings didn't take long to become rough (again this is on factory assembly) however replacing them with off-the-shelf japanese cartridge bearings would net a longer lifespan. Finally, hadley are clearly the heavy cousin in highend hubs, as everyone else has switched to (or offer) aluminium freehub bodies (hope, king, I9, hugi, burgtec).

Personally I thought the freehub mechanism on the hadley was great - it had minimal drag, engaged fast, and sounded great. It was the most reliable part of my hub. But everything else was sub-par, and one thing many people forget is that great tolerances do not make a great product. A great design does.

Anyway that's my experience, and I've since switched to hope and have been running them for 2 years + on a few bikes over a few seasons. I ride in rain/mud a lot, haven't serviced any of them ever, the bearings are all still smooth. I don't know if I got lucky, but in my eyes, I just spent a whole lot less and ended up with hubs that I can forget about.

 

[boogenman]

A Sunline "spoke protector" I suppose. It was on there when I bought it, and I will say it does prevent the chain from jumping off the big cog into your spokes. Mainly, it adds weight (important, needless to say) and no one else has one.

A good mechanic can also save your spokes

How do you like the single crown?

 

[Nilsson]

-09 medium Session 88 dh frame
-08 Boxxer Team
-09 shimano saint cranks 165mm
mavic ex721 rims silver
hope pro2 hubs
MRP G2
saint 36T chainring
Maxxis Minion dhf
sram x9
easton havoc handlebar 711mm

 

[JKS]

09 Rotec rl9 Ano Blue
09 Fox 40 Black
Juicy 7 Brakes w/Strait Line levers
XT Crank 36 tooth Gamut chainring
SDG post and saddle
Gamut p30
Hadley hubs laced to ztr flow's
Kenda tires
Sunline racing V1 pedals, V1 bars, boxxer direct mount stem.
X.0 Derailleur And x.9 shifter.
Shimano 12-23 Road cassette.
Wipperman Chain
Will post pics when I get around to it.

 

[303flyer]

Nice one sir! How did you manage to get the maglink for that frame? ^^

How does the Fox40 feel together with the rear suspension? Can't wait for tomorow when mine arrives.

I bought cole bangerts bike. Same as Chris's bike, just different wheels and has 2009 saint Brakes
38 pounds

http://s619.photobucket.com/albums/tt280/mlwomack4/?action=view&current=pbpic2963869.jpg

 

[303flyer]

Just got this:

Specs:
08' Demo 8 w/magnesium link
Fox 40 with 09' cartridge and Risse uppeer crown
CCDB w/ti spring
I9's laced to Alex Supra D's
Sunline stem and bars
XT cranks, derailuer, shifter and brakes
E13 LG1 w/taco

Was 37.8 lbs. with XC tubes and no pedals on it when I bought it. Now has DH tubes and of course pedals, but I haven't bothered to weigh it as keeping it light is not the first priority. Brakes suck, but the bike rips so far (only 2 rides on it so far).

Check mine out bro hahah I got a sick deal on it !

 

[jackalope]

^^

Gorgeous...I hope it makes you as fast as Cole

How do you like the single crown?

So far, I like it a lot. I replaced my older 888 with the Totem to lose some weight, and I really do not feel like it has compromised the bikes' DH "raceablity". I think the A2C is shorter than my old 888, and I really do not miss the 1" of travel. Some claim that single crowns will bump you around more, but I cannot say that has been my experience. It feels every bit as stiff as my 888, and gives the bike a quicker turning feel (subjective, I realize). I suppose if all I did was race, I might opt for a new 40 or Boxxer XC, but this is fine for me (i.e. slow and only races occasionally).

 

[monkeyfcuker]

This

With this paintjob

Specs-
2007 Sunday with DHX3
2007 Boxxer Team
Saint cranks and shifter
105 rear mech
E13 light guide
Pro11's on EX721/D521
Thomson post and SDG Ti fly (not in pic)
Burgtec penthouse flats
Avid Code's/Ultimate's

Erm that's about it!

 

[nenjarickard]

2009 Blue anodized Demo 8 With Mag-link
Fox 40 RC2 (White)
Fox DHX 5.0
Avid Elixir R
SDG I-Beam combo
Truvativ Boobar
Holzfeller integrated stem
Lizard skins White peaty Edition
Specialized/DT Swiss F550 Wheels
Minions

Stock bike arriving in 2 days...

Hopes to get it below 17.5kg for all day use.

Yummie.

Today it came! 39.9 stock and with uncut steerer/seatpost so those 17.5kg (38.5) shouldnt be a problem.

 

[IH8Rice]

cutting your steerer and seat post will cut 1.4lbs? wow

 

[nenjarickard]

cutting your steerer and seat post will cut 1.4lbs? wow

Trying to find where i said i would race it stock and NOT with those parts that i earlier wrote and quoted... DANG just can not find it!

 

[max123]

just under 42 right now
should be able to drop it with lighter crankset and pedals

 

[Banshee Rider]

Another year on last years bike. It'll have a 2010 Boxxer Team, but it's build will stay the same.

 

[nenjarickard]

Another year on last years bike. It'll have a 2010 Boxxer Team, but it's build will stay the same.

Yeaaahhh! Thought about you bike the other day, so love the colors.

 

[skiforfree33]

Another year on last years bike. It'll have a 2010 Boxxer Team, but it's build will stay the same.

I love the the colors. the purple is so sick! I really like the evil bash ring

 

[dhr-racer]

mine...

05 DHR
08 Boxxer team
Gap cranks
Blakspire DS1 w/36t ring
105 derailer
e-13 direct mount
729's on ringle abbas
ringle zuzu flats/ time atac z's
hayes mags
etc

and yes that seats comin off....

im picking up an 04 tazer this week for a trail rig, post some pics later this week

update from my post the other day, picked up some of the new stuff, glad to have that freakin huge seat gone

 

[huntandride]

2008 Glory Fr
Sunline Bars/ stem
2009 Boxxer Race
2008 Juicy 7's
x9 derailleur
Gamut p40
Race face Ride Dh cranks (Hopefull some g-lights for 09)
Specialized Saddle
43.5lbs as is
Not all upgrades in pic.

 

[djivotno]

2008 Glory Fr
Sunline Bars/ stem
2009 Boxxer Race
2008 Juicy 7's
x9 derailleur
Gamut p40
Race face Ride Dh cranks (Hopefull some g-lights for 09)
Specialized Saddle
43.5lbs as is
Not all upgrades in pic.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/beaner012493/PC010830.jpg

Wow, talk about good color scheme

I'd run it with a 215x63mm rear shock for a bit more DH Geo (190mm rear travel, but it won't be that big of a difference)

 

[Christiaan]

Bike for 2009, may race it too

 

[BMCarter]

My bike for the 09 season, I was planning on using my V10 but it broke around new years so I was forced to buy a new frame.

08 Sunday WC frame
Vivid 5.1 shock
Fox 40 RC2 tuned by Cortina
823s on Hope Pro II w/ dura ace 12-25
Gravity Lights and X.0 kit
Avid Codes

Weight: 40.5lbs w/ steel spring (Ti coming soon)

 

[Prettym1k3]

Did I post this already?

The build will include:
'08 Boxxer Team
DHX 5.0 with Ti spring
Avid Codes
Hollzfellers
Funn direct-mount
Funn handlebar
King hubs laced to 721's
X-9/X-9/990/991
Mallets
WTB Silverado

It should be fun.

 

[huntandride]

Wow, talk about good color scheme

I'd run it with a 215x63mm rear shock for a bit more DH Geo (190mm rear travel, but it won't be that big of a difference)

I love that frame. Its like a raw, bead blasted, color. Scratches in it are virtually impossible to see if there is no dirt in them. As for the blue, the 8 came on it and it had a 66 w/blue stickers. I spray-painted the shock guard and seatpost collar. I think I'm getting some light blue stickers made for the boxxer

 

[jonnynails]

Check mine out bro hahah I got a sick deal on it !

Looks good mang! I'm loving mine.

 

[APIOQM]

2007 Devinci Wilson 2
Fox DHX 5.0 coil (300lb)
2010 Boxxer Race
Mavic Deemax front+back
Minions
Juicy 7's
X.0 drive train
Saints, with LG1
Easton EA50 monkey bars
Stone Edge stem

That's about it... will get you guys pic's once its done.

 

[bullcrew]

Jedi!

 

[IH8Rice]

might race DS again on this or on the RS7

 

[Stefan W]

I will have my bike in late march.....

Session 88
Deemax 09
Elixir QR
SDG I-fly
Sunline V2 bar
Sunline grips
Funn integrated Ti
Minions UST
Ti-spring
Hope seatclamp

Looking forward to it, have waited far too long now! Put my order first week in June 08!

 

[Orfen]

Did I post this already?

no you need to post it one more time so we can see it..

 

[haromtnbiker]

I guess this will be my ride of choice.

 

[climbingbubba]

Ill just be getting into racing some local stuff this year so here is my build, won't get the frame til the end of march but i already put money down on it.

2008 canfield jedi L
2009 marz roco WC air
2009 marz 888 ata wc with black lowers
2009 avid code's white
mavic 823's laced to wtb superduty hubs
either intense 909 or schwalbe big betty's ran tubeless
deity Dirty 30 bars
corsair pedals (FOR NOW, something sweet and awesome to come!!!)
wtb devo saddle
thomson seatpost
x7 drivetrain
MRP G2 chainguide
holzfeller oct cranks

pics to come in early april

 

[IH8Rice]

are you painting the 888 to black?