moar stiffness and available with a real mans front axle, a fork made for the monkeys? Kornelius VonKapfinner strikes again.
Kornelius VonKapfinner strikes again.
Bury that shit. Bury it deep and never ever show it again.Need more neg chamber?
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First Look: Intend's New Inverted Fork Uses One and a Half Crowns - Pinkbike
For when one crown isn't enough but two crowns are obviously too many? Not quite...www.pinkbike.com
To only one side.Perfect for the discerning rider who really wants a dual crown, but also needs to be able to do X-ups.
Totally, vintage SupremeI can see that, which makes me also think fondly of my old v2 commancal.
Well yeah, because "moto"...."brrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap"...Somehow managed to be less weird looking than a linkage fork.
while I do agree re: inverted forks in general, from my armchair engineer perspective it would seem that a brace on the riders left side should provide less noodling of the fork against braking forces. Would it be as rigid as, wait for it, a standard brake arch and non-inverted design? I don’t know. Then again I possess the iq equivalent of Forrest Gump when it comes to such things.So we can have 50% better torsional rigidity than a single crown inverted...but only in one direction...and still not as good as a right-side-up fork. That company needs to be punched in the face a few times till they figure out that inverted is stupid.
that was his inspiration for it apparently.I actually think it is a WAY better location for a huge negative air spring than the Secus. But that’s all I got for a participation trophy.
inverted is probably what a one man shop can manufacture. Props to him for doing it and being able to sell them.So we can have 50% better torsional rigidity than a single crown inverted...but only in one direction...and still not as good as a right-side-up fork. That company needs to be punched in the face a few times till they figure out that inverted is stupid.
plus he's german. he's not going to listen to an armchair engineer from the internet.inverted is probably what a one man shop can manufacture. Props to him for doing it and being able to sell them.
Not me, been down that road too many times. As said elsewhere, it's a short-cut for those that can't get casted lowers, but the huge performance disadvantage is never worth it. Like going with a solid rear axle for your sports car.I’d be interested to see some actual data on rigidity on this fork vs various traditional forks. My current new shiny traditional fork fails my very scientific “hold the front wheel and wiggle the bars” test that I perform on each of my forks, even with the supposedly upgraded bolt on axle.
just curious, how much do think manufacturing for casted lowers costs?Not me, been down that road too many times. As said elsewhere, it's a short-cut for those that can't get casted lowers, but the huge performance disadvantage is never worth it. Like going with a solid rear axle for your sports car.
One (inverted) can be done by a simple CNC machine, likely in any major city. Where are you going to get casted lowers?just curious, how much do think manufacturing for casted lowers costs?
answer my question. how much do you think it costs.One (inverted) can be done by a simple CNC machine, likely in any major city. Where are you going to get casted lowers?
it's a short-cut for those that can't get casted lowers
That looks CNCed, not casted. Like Marz did with the Super T, except that they were using bolt-on shit still.
Blackline Ebonite - Intend
110x15mm boost axle, 180mm brakemount, travel is changeable later (all necessary parts included)www.intend-bc.com
For one, or for a production run and if the latter, how many? For you to do it yourself, buying all the equipment, or to have someone with the machinery like Suntour do it?answer my question. how much do you think it costs.
cost to manufacture (inclusive of tooling, setup, preproduction revisions, etc), not cost to start a foundryFor one, or for a production run and if the latter, how many? For you to do it yourself, buying all the equipment, or to have someone with the machinery like Suntour do it?
Yeah, the EXT is using X-Fusion lowers.I'm thinking Suntour catalogue???
Does the new EXT not use a lower shared with one of the bigger players?
still waiting for you to answer *how much you think it costs*So far it looks like you'd need a cold die-casting machine, besides stock and any supporting equipment:
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And you need a mold: https://www.sksdiecasting.com/die-casting/molds
Getting there, you gotta start seeing what kind of machinery is necessary, what sizes, how to get it to a location, etc. Logistics. So far, I'd budget at least 50K to get started up, maybe more. Looking like about 5K to ship that kind of machinery across the country, not to mention if you have to go overseas.still waiting for you to answer *how much you think it costs*
a shitload more. production tooling alone for a single casting is over 6 figures.Getting there, you gotta start seeing what kind of machinery is necessary, what sizes, how to get it to a location, etc. Logistics. So far, I'd budget at least 50K to get started up, maybe more.
Well, that was the conclusion I was starting with, that it was expensive as shit.a shitload more. production tooling alone for a single casting is over 6 figures.
yes. which is a big reason we don't see many smaller companies in the suspension game. cost of entry is high, you need a lot of up front capital.Well, that was the conclusion I was starting with, that it was expensive as shit.
I agree.yes. which is a big reason we don't see many smaller companies in the suspension game. cost of entry is high, you need a lot of up front capital.
i think EXT is taking a good approach by using lowers from another company, but there are some downsides to it as well.
you clearly have a chip on your shoulder about it. you'll be happy to know.....I agree.
I just don't have sympathy for any company making inverted forks because casted lowers are expensive. Avalanche did it, along with a plethora of companies from back in the day. These all sucked. Some aspects of the forks didn't suck, like the dampers on some, but while I think you can make up for some air spring wonkiness with damping, a bad chassis is far more limiting IME. I got "normalized" to it for a while riding a few of these and for sure you can screw up a right-side up fork too, like how stratos managed to make flexy right side up dual crown forks, but these just had no redeeming properties due to the wheel "kind of" going where you wanted and "kind of" being able to ride the lines you pointed it at.
well that one doesn't look moto at allyou clearly have a chip on your shoulder about it. you'll be happy to know.....
Blackline Ebonite - Intend
110x15mm boost axle, 180mm brakemount, travel is changeable later (all necessary parts included)www.intend-bc.com