What Gucci shock to get? Avy Chubie, Elka Stage 5, or BOS Stoy?
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Dont you think iv tried that sethimus you k**b !
are you mentally challenged?Dont you think iv tried that sethimus you k**b !
http://www.google.com/search?q=avalanche+shocks
well said.
Google worked for me. Took about 2 seconds.Dont you think iv tried that sethimus you k**b !
Just got a reply quote from Elka about a Stage 5 for my session, supposedly they have atune that will allow the shock to sit higher, while increasing small bump peformance. this is the no.1 issue with the DHX on my session, to keep it sitting high so it corners faster, i have to sacrafice grip and small bump, might just have to switch over to one in july/august ish time!
It's not that radically different. Really, you guys are overstating the difference between a shim stack and poppet valves. They achieve the same ends and adjustments achieve the same results. I stand by my claim that with enough time on a dyno, you could match curves.
All of that being said, I think it's nearly impossible to beat a shock that is custom built and tuned for your frame, weight, and riding style. So if you can't get the CCDB to feel the way you want, get an Elka. Their motorcycle shocks are fantastic (though I run an Ohlins).
What frame are you running the CCDB on???? I've used the CCDB on a Maestro bike and now my Demo and I can't really see where your comming from. I have easily found settings that make a pretyy sweet ride on both bikes. I find that I have had to run much more HS compression on the Demo due to the more linear linkage, but Once I dialed that in the bike takes the big hits well without effecting any other properties.
I just received an email today from Elka my demo shock is on it's way and should have it by Thursday. I'm very excited to try it out!
If you are sure that you could get the same results, why wouldn't all the major shock companies just use a big poppet valve (spring where you can adjust the preload on the valve) instead of a shim-stack? According to your logic they would perform the same, but is preloading a spring really the same thing as having a shim-stack? (in terms of how it blows off, the shape of the stack and how that affects it, and is spring force (rating) the same as preload?).
It doesn't seem like these are the same thing, or that they could all give the same results.
Were the frames a VP Free and an M3?
nope, my canfield lucky.
Oh. I don't know about the Lucky but the M3 seems like it would hard to set up like the OP is trying just by the nature of the bike. I think it would be probably be easier to find someone who understands the M3 to tune the shock to the OP's liking rather than try and find another off the shelf shock.
I guess I shouldn't say it was a "bad" feel over any of that stuff. With the settings I arrived at, it felt pretty good. It was just unpredictable. It's hard to tell, but it just seemed pretty inconsistent going into two similar hits. I guess it's not beyond the realm of possibility that something might have been loose in the shock (poppet spring or piston shim preload?) since it's now totally done, so I was having to guess what the thing was going to do.
Yeah I'm not even going to get into the whole spring damping curve vs. potential shim damping curves thing. Completely different.
Yeah I'm not even going to get into the whole spring damping curve vs. potential shim damping curves thing. Completely different.
What does this mean exactly? I already tried talking to it about it's feelings and all, but it just shuts me out...
9.5" travel out of a 3" stroke, frame stays progressive through the whole travel in a "linear" fashion, meaning no abrupt ramp-ups like you'll find on a V10. Pretty rearwards for the first half of the travel, then arcs forwards a bit near the end. Anything critical I'm missing?