The new Balance frame looks good, although I might like a steeper seat tube angle (actual or effective). And I've got as much use for a water bottle cage as I do for 29" wheels. More weight on the wheels/ frame? No thanks.
What happened to Canfield Bros?
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Most Euro brands dot this. Try to build a YT, Canyon, Rose or any other German brand by yourself, you'll find the price of the components is higher than the complete bike by a big margin. I always thought they partially financed those bikes by smuggling coke or opium from the Far East inside the frames.
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Entirely possible that it's a regional thing, also possible that Ibis had very low expectations and was surprised they sold more than a handful of the Ripmo AF.
No complete bike can be built for less when buying the parts individually, but that wasn't my point. With the Ripmo AF and even moreso the Canfield, these are niche bikes from boutique brands. If you're knowledgeable enough to know who Canfield is, I imagine you're also aware of how cheap used bikes are. There's for sure a segment of riders who don't want carbon, but again, like anybody who would actually know who Ibis or Canfield are, you're talking about a knowledgable rider who's been around for a while. Entry level bikes are aluminum due to price, not preference. You can get a lightly used Transition Patrol or Smuggler alloy with a kick ass build, better suspension and better wheels for the same kind of money as a Ripmo AF, or this Balance. A new rider seems most likely to "have to" buy a brand new bike, seems least likely to see the value in the higher end suspension or wheels, and least likely to buy a boutique brand, and especially won't buy a direct-to-consumer bike like Canfield or YT.
Making your "hardcore" bike downmarket just doesn't make much sense to me, but again I'm not nearly enough of a lizard to know the exact ins and outs of the industry.
These are the exact types of bikes that I recommend to friends who ask about what bike to buy once they decide they really want to get into the sport and want a full suspension bike. They don't want to spend $5k but they also don't want to buy used.
Depends on the person, but most want to start with something new either because 1) they don't know enough to evaluate what may need to be fixed on a used bike or how to fix it 2) they buy new things in general.
yeah, i know...i was just kinda being an ass. happens sometimes
new DH bike. unsure how i feel about it looks (doesn't look like anything special) something just feels right about canfield having a DH bike
canfieldbikes.com
Canfield Bikes Rolls Out ONE.2 29er Downhill Bike With CBF™ Suspension
Canfield’s latest DH weapon is engineered to take on the roughest race tracks and biggest bike-park lines with confidence.
canfieldbikes.com
Frame & shock: $2100 for preorder, $2300 MSRP. that's a pretty good price.
Was excited until I saw the stack height 
I'd be interested in test riding one to see if I could make it work
I'd be interested in test riding one to see if I could make it work
flat barsWas excited until I saw the stack height
I'd be interested in test riding one to see if I could make it work
Noflat bars
I messaged them on FB to see how much reach/stack changes with a 180mm single crown in 27.5 mode.
drop bars then.No
I messaged them on FB to see how much reach/stack changes with a 180mm single crown in 27.5 mode.
revisiting this, what's wrong with the stack? its pretty much in line with the supreme 29, which is 638mm across all sizes. the canfield is 620/629/938 across sizes 1/2/3No
I messaged them on FB to see how much reach/stack changes with a 180mm single crown in 27.5 mode.
note: i had been confused, i was looking at standover thinking it was stack, and it seemed way high.
Meh, looks generic...but good price.
Trend lately is higher stack with 29ers, but all my bikes are 600-610 stack at 460 to 470 reach. I can run higher if a bike is long/slack enough, but that requires a test ride to make sure.
Commencal Clash is 467/612 in large
Commencal clash isn't a full blown dh bike, so it's not the best comparison. That's why I referenced the supreme.
My large Glory is 461 (466 w/ reach adjust headset)/599
That's what I was thinking when I looked at the headtube gussets.
I do too...but when I think Canfield bikes, I think 'Fatty Fat', 'Formula 1'....and 'Jedi'
is your glory 275 or 29?
the glory is on the low end if 29. this new One isn't off the charts. it's on the high end with a number of other popular bikes. like the supreme i already mentioned, spec demo: 633. trek session is a little shorter at 619. norco aurum is 617. but the 275 version of it is 592-612 depending on size.
Nope, not off the charts for a 29er. In general I don't like the stack height of 90% of 29ers (my main opposition to them), mostly due to short legs/long torso.
and that's fine, but let's make sure we're comparing comparable things.
Put a skull on it
Just Listened to Chris Canfield on the inside line podcast, sounds like a pretty cool guy that is passionate about DH and making bike suspension better. Unfortunately he said there will not be a new Jedi coming out, and if I heard him correctly he will be trying to qualify to race the 2020 WC DH circuit, which is super ballsy.
Listened to that too, he seems like a cool guy but also seems to have some very strong opinions about his designs and preferences, came across a little preachy at times to be honest. His whole thing about how all pro riders should be riding cranks under 160mm, how his suspension is superior to literally every other design, how chainstays should be as short as possible, etc. I get that he's trying to build a brand around CBF suspension and all, but I always enjoy the perspectives a bit more when guys are able to speak to what they like about other designs, other new and interesting concepts in the industry, etc. versus just hyping their own stuff. He did say he has some new suspension patents in the works which will be coming out this year...
Choosing to ride the Mullet Jedi, thats an interesting way to market the new DH Bike??
Him and his brother must be on pretty bad terms or the Jedi is a better bike, or both if I had to guess.
Either way 19th is damn respectable, especially considering he is 43.
That shit totally works on me.
I want one.
It's skull......get it? It looks like a skull.
Man, so cool.
Imagine how it would look on the back of a lifted Jeep with a Punisher spare tire cover?
Meh jeep, I am getting the new Bronco.
i was actually pleasantly surprised by what the new chevy blazer looked likeMeh jeep, I am getting the new Bronco.
hey, I found some old photos of me, Lance and Sean Gollub riding. Before I post them to Lance’s FB page, does anyone know if Sean and Lance are all good?