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what is "fork rake" when reading geometry #s?

jacksonpt

jacksonpt

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Was looking at the geometry numbers on a frame and comparing them to the geometry on my 575. One of the measurements was "fork rake" - what is that?
 
binary visions

binary visions

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If you don't wish to read the article, though, it's the amount that the axle is offset from the steering axis - that is, how far in front of the steerer tube that the axle is located.
 
jacksonpt

jacksonpt

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binary visions said:
If you don't wish to read the article, though, it's the amount that the axle is offset from the steering axis - that is, how far in front of the steerer tube that the axle is located.
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so that's dependent on the fork, correct? A taller fork will have "more" rake? and how is that different from HT angle, aside from the unit of measure? I assume a shorter rake means the axle is closer to the BB... thus steering is faster, correct?


ah, ok... nevermind... the velonews article finally loaded. Thanks.
 
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binary visions

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jacksonpt said:
so that's dependent on the fork, correct? A taller fork will have "more" rake? and how is that different from HT angle, aside from the unit of measure? I assume a shorter rake means the axle is closer to the BB... thus steering is faster, correct?
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As I understand it, it's not dependant on the height of the fork, since whether your fork is at a 90 degree angle, or a 60 degree angle, the offset of the axle from the steerer tube is the same.

If you draw a line parallel to the steerer tube that passes through the middle of the axle, the distance between the steerer tube and that line is your rake. Again, as I understand it - I've been wrong before :D (just once or twice, though).
 
Wumpus

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binary visions said:
As I understand it, it's not dependant on the height of the fork, since whether your fork is at a 90 degree angle, or a 60 degree angle, the offset of the axle from the steerer tube is the same.

If you draw a line parallel to the steerer tube that passes through the middle of the axle, the distance between the steerer tube and that line is your rake. Again, as I understand it - I've been wrong before :D (just once or twice, though).
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The rake is a function of the fork, but the trail will change with a height increase. Trail is what affects handling.
 
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Wumpus said:
The rake is a function of the fork, but the trail will change with a height increase. Trail is what affects handling.
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Right, but most bike manufacturers don't offer a measurement of trail - at least not the ones I've looked at (might be different for XC bikes - I don't look at those much). Rake is fairly common though.
 
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