[Spunger]

Hey guys,

Quick ?...

What is the weight of a Evil/E13 SRS chainguide system?

I was just bored and curious. Tried the search function but didn't find anything. Found some info how to mount to Saint cranks etc....but nothing about weight.

If ya know I'd like to know

 

[BigMike]

whatever it weighs, its worth it!

 

[dhmtbj]

PM dw, he can give you an exact weight..

 

[Sir_Crackien]

like bigmike said don't worry because its probibly the best giude money can buy right now.

btw: they are not light

 

[dhmtbj]

like bigmike said don't worry because its probibly the best giude money can buy right now.

btw: they are not light

Actually they are pretty light if I remember correctly...

 

[sama1ter]

ive always wanted to drill like 1/2" indents in teh back of it, shave some weight on my dh bike

 

[Sir_Crackien]

i state this comparing it to other guides that i has used-installed(it heavier). in the big picture though the weight difference will be small, it just weights more in proportion

 

[RaID]

it depends which size are you talking about?

 

[Bicyclist]

If you need a chainguide you shouldn't be worrying about weight. And if you're that concerned with weight use it w/o the bashring and it will still keep your chain on.

 

[The Kadvang]

If you need a chainguide you shouldn't be worrying about weight. And if you're that concerned with weight use it w/o the bashring and it will still keep your chain on.

I don't think he was worried about weight, he just wanted to know. And the e.13 is designed to work with their guard, it doesn't work as well without.

 

[Spunger]

Yeah I just was curious what the weight of a SRS guide was.

I am not worried about how much weight it has, I am more concerned with protection.

I know the bashguard doesn't weigh a whole lot but the mount I think has some to it. I was just bored and curious is all

I'll PM dw and ask

 

[Transcend]

And if you're that concerned with weight use it w/o the bashring and it will still keep your chain on.

Er no, it won't.

 

[dw]

OK a few answers.

First off, the SRS guides are actually pretty lightweight, and as far as bashring equipped chainguides go, they are just about the lightest available. I know they look heavy, and because they are so strong, people thing the guides are heavy, but chuck one up on a scale next to a competing guide and see for yourselves. The things are light!!!

The 40T SRS, with everything you need to mount it up to your bike including all bolts, ISCG mount bolts, etc... is 520 grams. This is 20 grams lighter than other unnamed guides that people try to drill out to get lighter.

The STS comes in at 475 grams

The SRS guide will not work well without the bashring. The supercharger is an integral part of the chainguide. Every part, every feature in the guide has a purpose. The SRS was developed using a ton of FEA (computer aided structural analysis) to remove any excess weight. It is designed to take a significant impact and still function, allowing you the rider to finish your race run sans mechanical. Its pretty unique in this aspect as far as chainguides go.

For bashring weight, the supercharger is lighter than two 1/8 inch aluminum plates in other guides, with a HUGE jump in strength and impact resistance. For 2005 we are injecting bashguards from a new proprietary plastic alloy caled Tuffmax. The new alloy is 12% stronger and more impact resistant than any other material available on the market. We alloy this material ourselves, so its not, and wont be available in any other bashguard.

As far as drilling out the Supercharger, its not a good idea. You will induce stress concentrations, and the guard may not last. Also, you would be lucky if you could get more than 50 grams out of it. Its just not worth it.

OK, so there you go, thats the straight scoop!

dw

 

[Espen]

Have any here actually bought the Formula SRS chauinguide?

Will this also come with the new bash material?

Clear only on the Formula?

E

 

[vitox]

Have any here actually bought the Formula SRS chauinguide?

Will this also come with the new bash material?

Clear only on the Formula?

E

info as of this week from michael@e13 is that the formula will not be produced any longer (not sure if it ever was)

 

[ssaddict]

Have any here actually bought the Formula SRS chauinguide?

Will this also come with the new bash material?

Clear only on the Formula?

E

While light as hell and very Bling Bling, the carbon is just too expensive and isn't as bomb proof as the current SRS back plate.

One of the greatest benifits of the e13 guide is you can run your bike LOW to get great cornering performance and not risk any DNF's or mechanicals.

 

[Acadian]

One of the greatest benifits of the e13 guide is you can run your bike LOW to get great cornering performance and not risk any DNF's or mechanicals.

you bet... Mine took a beating this year and I've had the same backplate for over 2 seasons and it was still going strong!!

 

[Zark]

you bet... Mine took a beating this year and I've had the same backplate for over 2 seasons and it was still going strong!!

Nice bashguard Luc! Gnar* marks

 

[Acadian]

Nice bashguard Luc! Gnar* marks

yup...and that was a new supercharger that I got in July.

 

[Espen]

I'll have to make a Formula myself then

 

[vitox]

I'll have to make a Formula myself then

lessee who makes it first

for the 9mm bashring, are you going to shave of the front end or the back?

 

[Espen]

I have already removed 1mm of the back of mine, to make Middleburn arms fit.
If I should make it even thinner, I will take a litle for both sides.

Waterjet cutting should be ok for the boomerang, but how thick should it be?

E

 

[vitox]

I have already removed 1mm of the back of mine, to make Middleburn arms fit.
If I should make it even thinner, I will take a litle for both sides.

Waterjet cutting should be ok for the boomerang, but how thick should it be?

E

humm, i wasnt really thinking about the backplate, just the bashring, im thinking if i go too thin, i still wont have chain problems and the superchargers cost way less than the backplate, actually the best way to cut weight on the backplate i guess is to run a 40t and cut off the unused parts like on the gemini specific boomerang.

 

[Spunger]

Thank you DW

I wouldn't drill anything out. It's fine how it is

 

[dexter]

i need to snap a pick of my guard. 2.5 ounces shaved and drilled out and that was only a tiny bit of what i waqnt to do to it. my bashgaurd also has 9 or 10 holes drilled in it and it feels noticably lighter in hand than a non-drilled version

 

[Transcend]

Heh, you think that is bad? You shouls ask DW about the one he MADE me remove from my bike. 3 years on it, beat to hell, but i never dropped a chain! He finally confiscated my bike at Mt Snow to replace it for a shiny new E13 one.

you bet... Mine took a beating this year and I've had the same backplate for over 2 seasons and it was still going strong!!

 

[Acadian]

Heh, you think that is bad? You shouls ask DW about the one he MADE me remove from my bike. 3 years on it, beat to hell, but i never dropped a chain! He finally confiscated my bike at Mt Snow to replace it for a shiny new E13 one.

Oh pardonne-moi Mr. e-core-ness!

 

[Transcend]

Oh pardonne-moi Mr. e-core-ness!

Bromont rocks ate it alive! Just shows how much of a beating these damn things can take.

 

[ssaddict]

humm, i wasnt really thinking about the backplate, just the bashring, im thinking if i go too thin, i still wont have chain problems and the superchargers cost way less than the backplate, actually the best way to cut weight on the backplate i guess is to run a 40t and cut off the unused parts like on the gemini specific boomerang.

All this talk of cutting... even the weight weenie that I am would rather not do that. Don't cha like to be able to land on it? Take off too much around those mounts and you'll probably wish you hadn't, and see why Dave made it that thick. Drilling a few holes to allow mud to escape would be about the only thing that I think I would try, even then you arn't going to loose that much weight.

 

[Acadian]

Bromont rocks ate it alive! Just shows how much of a beating these damn things can take.

pointless if you can't back it up with pics :devil:

 

[Transcend]

pointless if you can't back it up with pics :devil:

Lemme go grab my digicam

 

[Acadian]

Lemme go grab my digicam

I can just see you with the grinder right now...

 

[Transcend]

I can just see you with the grinder right now...

Unfotunatley all I have is a dremel.


Ok this wasnt the easiest thing to photograph, clear guard, white surface, halogen lights and a bad camera..I mopved to my swanky office carpeting.

What's funny is you can see where the mud has completely ground the bashring almost smooth in some spots. The spot i shot (side that i ride with down) has about 1/4" missing. QUALITY PRODUCT!

 

[Transcend]

 

[Acadian]

that looks smooth as a babies butt!!

 

[Transcend]

that looks smooth as a babies butt!!

Mud is an incredible thing! But you sold out and moved to the land of no mud a long time ago, you probably don't remember anything about mud.

It was 0c when i left for class this morning. ugh. Hold me.

 

[Acadian]

Mud is an incredible thing! But you sold out and moved to the land of no mud a long time ago, you probably don't remember anything about mud.

It was 0c when i left for class this morning. ugh. Hold me.

you would be suprised at the amount of mud there is here when it rains - like euh...NOW!

0c weather I can do without....I like cooler weather, but not COLD! Heck I hate anything that falls from the sky that isn't sunshine rays!!

 

[Transcend]

you would be suprised at the amount of mud there is here when it rains - like euh...NOW!

0c weather I can do without....I like cooler weather, but not COLD! Heck I hate anything that falls from the sky that isn't sunshine rays!!

Ya, stik was bitching about the wet stuff falling for 4 days straight. 0c i don't mind SO much, its the -20, - 30 and -40 that gets to me. I loved the boulder winter weather. Above freezing, and 5 feet of nice fresh pow int he backcountry, while i can still ride my bike on trails around boulder/golden.

 

[MichaelT]

i need to snap a pick of my guard. 2.5 ounces shaved and drilled out and that was only a tiny bit of what i waqnt to do to it. my bashgaurd also has 9 or 10 holes drilled in it and it feels noticably lighter in hand than a non-drilled version

Your bash guard will fail because of your modification.

Michael

e.thirteen / Evil