I am happy to see improvements to the Midrane levels, helps keep riding affordable for some of us. Like myself, I cant always afford the "top Line" so midline has to do, and its nice to know they are doing things like this to keep the performance level up, even when they cant keep the weights super low. I like it.
I think shimano did good with their shadow design. However, their brakes still don't work below 32 degree's, they still don't make a lightweight 83mm crank, and their shift components still don't out-perform sram IMO. Although I'm twice as likely to run their stuff now compared to two years ago, I still don't think it'd be considered an "upgrade" for me.
I disagree, the saint rotor develops play after some time in the riveted interface, and all you can do is replace the rotor (I went through a few due to that, thankfully no one wants them so you can get them cheap/free)... so it's certainly not a tougher design. Beyond that, there are lighter 6-bolt rotors available so there's no weight saving to be had either. It's certainly not easier to manufacture, more complex if anything (riveting, two types of metal in rotor, non-standard hubs, machined 2-piece lockring instead of standard bolts).
So ultimately, all you're left with is a setup that's easier to install/remove - but having tried it for two years, I fail to see that as a tangible benefit compared to all the negatives. I'm a pretty big shimano fan but I won't be touching centrelock again (or their hubs, I ran hugi's which were okay but those have their share of flaws too).
I'm I the only one here not a sucker to Re-Branding? Shimano SLX is nothing truly *new* , look on at all the old mountain bikes, it was on most of them. What shimano is basically doing is making a hardcore version of the XT....and rebranding the hone with all the technology they developed since they first introduced it...
I disagree, the saint rotor develops play after some time in the riveted interface, and all you can do is replace the rotor (I went through a few due to that, thankfully no one wants them so you can get them cheap/free)...
i guess i'd still buy the slx cranks if they're stronger at all than hones as from what i understand hones stand up to plenty of abuse fairly well. as for the bashguard argument, i would like to replace my bashguard with a gamut at some point but with an alu one. the gamuts are pretty much the only poly bashes that are under 150 grams, the e13 ones are tanks. i can see why poly bashes are popular though as they won't bend or directly transfer force into the crank assembly where an impact can really do damage.