[mack]

hey what the heck is the point of a spring like this??? is this a cheap fix for bad shock technology/progessive. ?

 

[Sir_Crackien]

it is a progressive wound spring. they are really cool because the spring rate increases deeper you get into the shocks travel. most every motorized vehical uses them.

 

[Jm_]

hey what the heck is the point of a spring like this??? is this a cheap fix for bad shock technology/progessive. ?

Err, or is progressive(SPV, CV/T) a cheap fix for bad bike suspension technology???

 

[Tully]

Those are progressive springs, and as far as I know, they're obsolete, because they're just unnecessary with shock technology nowadays. I've only been into DH for two or three years, but even before the 5th Element came out, I don't remember anyone using those.

 

[Jm_]

most every motorized vehical uses them.

Yep, and stratos shocks too

 

[Jm_]

Those are progressive springs, and as far as I know, they're obsolete, because they're just unnecessary with shock technology nowadays. I've only been into DH for two or three years, but even before the 5th Element came out, I don't remember anyone using those.

Were you only riding for a week before the 5th element came out?

 

[zedro]

Those are progressive springs, and as far as I know, they're obsolete, because they're just unnecessary with shock technology nowadays. I've only been into DH for two or three years, but even before the 5th Element came out, I don't remember anyone using those.

the 5th does predominantly use Ti springs which i suspect are somewhat progressive in nature, as well as have some air assist component to the spring rate.

 

[Jm_]

the 5th does predominantly use Ti springs which i suspect are somewhat progressive in nature, as well as have some air assist component to the spring rate.

That stratos was simply too progressive. My bike had 3 sources of "progressivness". Progressive linkages. Progressive spring. And the helix opperates with an air-assist spring, which is progressive by nature of course.

Talk about ramping up way too fast, it was quite harsh due to this, so there can be such a thing as "too much of a good thing" in that sense, still the helix turned a lot of unridable bikes into decent rides (like old falling-rate Y-bikes and such)...

 

[Sir_Crackien]

progressive rate spring are anything but obsolete. the reason you don't see many for bikes is bacaue they are difficault to manufacture. as for the ti spring comment, i also bevieve that they have a natural progression but it is very slight, not even coming close to the possible progressiveness of a progressive spring

 

[mack]

there ugly.

 

[DHCorky]

I think it would be cool to bring back the color anodized part craze

 

[Curb Hucker]

I think it would be cool to bring back the color anodized part craze

we should just chrome everything

 

[heikkihall]

Those are progressive springs, and as far as I know, they're obsolete, because they're just unnecessary with shock technology nowadays. I've only been into DH for two or three years, but even before the 5th Element came out, I don't remember anyone using those.

I remember seeing pictures of peaty and minnaars oranges equipped with with those super trick black box rock shox rear shox with progressive springs. I think the springs may have even been Ti too?

 

[Tully]

Were you only riding for a week before the 5th element came out?

Haha, I've only been into DH for a little over two years, but I've ridding XC for about 5 years.

 

[thaflyinfatman]

Can somebody explain to me how that works? Does it rely on the softer part binding with itself at a certain point, to achieve an increase in rate somewhere along the line? I can't quite get my head around how it would work if it does something different to that.

 

[Sir_Crackien]

thaflyinfatman you are right the soft part does need to bind itself out to achive the stiff part of the spring

well sort of. just think of it that way