Same here!
I want a 29" Maxxis Dissector in DD casing with MaxxTerra rubber for the rear.
Only have DD in MaxxGrip.
What is your go to tire for loose over hard?
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I swear i’m not trolling! Jd Swanguen (he of jr silver medal at Fort Bill dh worlds a) swears by hard Af highrollers on loose-over. I’m gonna take a San Diego kids word for it
The wee knobs are so very predictable if you tune out all the casing roll. Skrrrt skrrt, as the kids say.
For loose over hardpack that isn’t 100% dry, a rock hard dhr2 with a real hard hr2 out back steps out just right.
(sign me up for the maxxterra Dissector club too, please)
The wee knobs are so very predictable if you tune out all the casing roll. Skrrrt skrrt, as the kids say.
For loose over hardpack that isn’t 100% dry, a rock hard dhr2 with a real hard hr2 out back steps out just right.
(sign me up for the maxxterra Dissector club too, please)
i should have specified, loose over hard that is 100% dry.
And no pointy rocks?
'Cause the thought of a 40psi HR2 around here kinda freaks me out.
'Cause the thought of a 40psi HR2 around here kinda freaks me out.
I was gonna say check the DH casings cos from memory they're barely heavier than the DD on the Dissector but I checked and no MaxxTerra.I want a 29" Maxxis Dissector in DD casing with MaxxTerra rubber for the rear.
Only have DD in MaxxGrip.
Wonder if something like a Orange stripe Hans Dampf or something would work for you. Although those things lose knobs fast, the Dissector does too so might be worth a go.
Fuck thats a great flick. Crazy good cinematography too.I just watched that (again) last night!
I gotta figure a way to either get fitter (too much effort really), better (not likely) or faster rolling in the next few weeks. 3 - 5 seconds per stage slower than the winner at the last race and its come down to the last round points wise. My rear tyre is flogged and has three plugs in it so might try to replace it with a narrower 2.3 DHR2 before the last race. Even if I can't beat the guy overall I'd like a couple of stage wins off him at least. Stupid pedally stages
Good call. It's dry and dusty AF out there, but could change. Good option tho. It's juuuust rocky enough that I don't wanna risk EXO+ but a SS could be mint.
tried a Minion SS? They corner just like a 2.3 DHF when leant over as they share the same side knob patern but the SS rolls massively faster. Transitioning from semi slick to the edge when leaning in isn't actually all that dissimilar to the drift zone of a DHF. but it won't't hold a line as well when upright and has poor braking performance in every situation.
They used to be available in a maxxgrip DH casing version but i'm not sure if they still are. I prefer the Exo+ in dual compound. Obviously I have to run higher rear pressure and accept it has less tacky side knobs. But i think it works better with higher pressure for more supportive sidewalls and for those edge knobs to dig in but also to keep them from dragging when upright. It's also not super rocky anywhere round here though
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Hard High Rollers let that row of sideknobs act like a blade without the casing squirming. They do better at low pressure when you're trying to get grip on large sandstone or granite rocks which lets those open patches do their thing.
As in OG DH casing highrollers stored in the sun since 1999 or new HR2s pumped up to decently supportive pressures?
Seriously, they lack common sense with some of their offerings. People who want the Dissector up front want it in max grip or maxx terra with Exo or Exo+ casing, paired with a trail tire in the rear. People who run the Dissector in the rear want it with maxx terra and DD or Exo+, paired with an enduro front tire like Assegai. No one is asking for a DD maxx grip.If the new EXO+ is better than the old version, it may be enough, but why no DD MaxxTerra?
Not like there are pedally bits, or places you need tough, but maybe not glue like grip...
Sometimes the combo's Maxxis offers just seems a bit
Another of Maxxis' problems of not offering the right combos: Every DH casing they sell has MaxxGrip rubber. They must think that DH bikes are only used for race runs. No practice runs, no park days, no shuttling. Only maximum grip with minimum life for every rear DH tire they sell.
That is straight up retarded. Back when I raced DH I always rode the sticky icky tires but if I was to DH again I would want something that lasted more than 3 days.
totally agree, with 1 exception. You can still get dual compound DHF in DH casing… which is IMO the perfect rear tire for tough guy trail bikes.
I've got one on the back of my 29er DH bike now but bought it years ago and thought they were no longer available.
Fwiw- I bought 3 from maxxis this spring.
Maxxis can be a nightmare to find what you want in stock here as in the UK they have a few different distribution channels and each distributor doesn't hold full stock of every available option. ie. there are variants available in France/Germany that are simply not available through UK shops.
Interesting about the SS Minion. I read a few reviews that said as much as it rolled faster than a DHF proper, it was slower than other SS tyres.
On the back of that, I bought 2 SS tyres: Schwalbe Rock Razor and E13 LG1. We'll see how they go. They will be replacing some DHR IIs in Maxxgrip, so anything will be faster than that, but I'm hoping to find something heavier duty casing wise that still rolls pretty quick.
Still annoyed I can't find DHRIIs in Maxx Terra, DH casing...
Yeah, I think the SS would work better if it was a little more round. It's basically on the same profile as the DHR, but without the center knobs so the side knobs are kinda high relative to the center of the tire.
I found the Minion SS to be terrifying out here in dirt-over-rocks-land.
I can just imagine it on the dust-covered slabs of Dakota Ridge.
Or the dusty troughs of Left Hand Canyon
Maybe the 2.3, if they made a burlier casing.Slaughter 2.6.
Put the RR on. It's a 27.5 x 2.35 on a 32mm IW rim. Rolls pretty good, no complaints in the first voyage, but major caveat is that the dirt was hero tack today. We'll see how they go in dry and dusty conditions.
Now to make a fool of myself.... what's the go with the direction of these things? I mounted them like I would a DHF, with the tread arrowing towards the front. Granted, the direction of the RR tread is far less obvious, but the side knobs seem to be pointing forward the way I have it mounted.
After the install I look at the rotation sign on the side and I see I have it backwards. What gives? Should it really be in the opposite direction?
Cheers all,
Kurt
Now to make a fool of myself.... what's the go with the direction of these things? I mounted them like I would a DHF, with the tread arrowing towards the front. Granted, the direction of the RR tread is far less obvious, but the side knobs seem to be pointing forward the way I have it mounted.
After the install I look at the rotation sign on the side and I see I have it backwards. What gives? Should it really be in the opposite direction?
Cheers all,
Kurt
Yeah counter to most tread patterns, most schwalbes have the corner knobs pointing out.
Slightly off-topic but just chiming in to say that from a sample size of one, the new EXO+ does indeed seem an improvement. I'm with you and typically need a DD casing in the rear for trail bikes, having slashed too many EXO+ sidewalls over the years, but I got some of the new EXO+'s with a new bike so I gave them a shot and I've just about worn through the tread without any casing issues. (Happens to be a full-power e-bike (oh the horror!) as well, so over 50 lbs. of smashy.) I always thought EXO+ should have been more durable but with less weight penalty than DD or DH and it seems like Maxxis got the message.
TB00350300I want a 29" Maxxis Dissector in DD casing with MaxxTerra rubber for the rear.
Only have DD in MaxxGrip.
edit - oh ya, throw on the DHR2 side knobs while you are at it,
29X2.40WT
61-622
120X2
FOLDABLE
1184
3C MAXXTERRA
50
3C/DD/TR
BLACK
E25
Of course.
I just received from teh Germanz a new Exo+ Dissector for the rear.
At first blush, the new Exo+ has quite a bit heavier sidewalls compared to the old Exo+
I have an Exo, old Exo+ and new Exo+ and a DH, but alas no DD. However, I will break out the mic and will measure the sidewalls...
I generally like the Dissector a lot, although I wish the channel was just a bit narrower - DHR width would be fantastic.Of course.
I just received from teh Germanz a new Exo+ Dissector for the rear.
At first blush, the new Exo+ has quite a bit heavier sidewalls compared to the old Exo+
I have an Exo, old Exo+ and new Exo+ and a DH, but alas no DD. However, I will break out the mic and will measure the sidewalls...