Trail bike tires require some finesse, and they are a compromise. Sounds like some people should just run DH tires.
What trail bike tire casings don't suck?
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I would consider it if someone made a decent 29" DH tire... Oh wait, is that minion Exo DH actually a DH casing or the Exo crap?
kenda!
yep, that's a manicured flow trail alright !For perspective, miles and miles of this is what an average "trail bike" ride around here looks like. The fact that it's not very steep (actually annoyingly flat) is what contributes to rim/tire damage.
I'll take one with me grinning ear to ear next to the beautiful little 180mm rotor on the front of my trail bike now.
Bontrager SE5 would be worth a look. 900ish grams and a 30 day satisfaction guarantee.
The Newer version or the older one?
Any? Didn't know there was more than 1.
2nd generation works quite well, first one not so much, imho. The Baron Projekt is really good, but the Mitchy is better for moar aggressive riding (loose rocky fast crap). I'm told the Kaiser Projekt 2.4 will be available in an enduro weight/casing soon.
There were 2 generations with different patterns. One was sold in 2.5'' the newer in 2.4'' if I'm not wrong.
I think you will like it. I have been using Butchers and Slaughters for a while, even raced DH on them (Using 29er ones but I assume the 650b and 26, yes they do make them both in 26 now, ones are the same) I now have a pair of Hillbillys on there, the new tread pattern ones, and they are great. They are a bit narrower then the other tyres in 2.3 but feel good for the sloppy conditions we are getting into now.
Cautiously optimistic with the Wild Rock'r2. Rode 3-Sisters this evening which involves a lot of big, exposed water bars and a lot of square-edged rocks. No rim-strikes at what is normally an unrideabru PSI (28-ish). And as I've admitted to numerous times - I'm a skilless, plowy hack.
That word is not in Hacktastic vocabulary.
I have had good luck with them. I even ran one on the dh bike. Zero flats out of 3 tires which i wore the tread out on. I can also run less air than my normal (on the trail bike) . I normal have to fix flats on other tire casings but so far haven't had any need to of the michelins
If that that trail was my daily driver, and I was going thru exo tires every other ride, I'd just go DD or DH tires. Eff the weight. I'd be more concerned about my tire budget cutting into my bong shed and beer budget. Let alone walking back to the car. (I normally don't carry tire repair jive with me). But that's just me. And I'm only 180#bagofdicks.
Yes, x2 on all of this.
Lower pressure, smack everything on the trail with zero fucks given & the tires just kick ass.
But we should probably throw in a pansy-disclaimer: They are heavy and don't roll fast.
Then again, rolling resistance is a feminist issue.
For what they are I think they roll really well and what you lose on the straights you make up for in the corners.
Oh, I'm not complaining... except that time I had to ride the road up to Dakota Ridge. But there was a headwind. I cursed a lot.
But if it results in fewer/no flats... I don't give a flying shit.
Well, it is, but it's really impossible to maintain 100% of the time on that sort of terrain. In some capacity, the bike has to work by itself when the forcing frequencies become that high. The human body isn't going to react at 5Hz+ if you land loaded into a series of bumps, no matter how loose you are.
Weight watchers FTW!
Possibly changing tune on the TRS+
These things hook up just great, traction isn't the problem, but these are just not holding pressure with any consistency. I've had Schwable and Maxxis tires mounted up to these rims and they've been rock solid. These e13 are never the same pressure two days in a row. Shit, not even from climbing to descending. (fwiw: I was averaging 27 or 28psi front, about 30 rear) Properly mounted, plenty of sealant, same setup as the other brands.
Anyone else having anything similar with these tires? If this keeps up the experiment may be over.
No such issues here. Is the tire weeping?Possibly changing tune on the TRS+
These things hook up just great, traction isn't the problem, but these are just not holding pressure with any consistency. I've had Schwable and Maxxis tires mounted up to these rims and they've been rock solid. These e13 are never the same pressure two days in a row. Shit, not even from climbing to descending. (fwiw: I was averaging 27 or 28psi front, about 30 rear) Properly mounted, plenty of sealant, same setup as the other brands.
Anyone else having anything similar with these tires? If this keeps up the experiment may be over.
The tire cost/hassle of walking has become a real fucking burden.
I am also only a 180# or so bag of dicks. I was referring to Gemini in another thread as the 220# bag of dicks. She's huge.
Nope, it's not.
From some guy on mtbr:
"So I can now confirm that the following is true about the different 29x 2.5 DHF Minions because I have them:
TB96800000 is a 2 compound EXO tire that weighs about 1000g
TB96800100 is a 2 compound DH casing 2 ply tire that weighs about 1255g
Now for the two triple compound tires that I have not had my hands on, but I have been given this same info by two different folks at Maxxis:
TB96800300 is a 3C Maxterra EXO tire that weighs about 1000g
TB96800200 is a 3C Maxgrip 2 ply DH casing that weighs about 1255g"
They do exist! I have a set of the DH casing 3C Maxxgrip Minion DHF in 29. That tire makes me start to like some 29ers. Those on a DT Swiss XM481 rim make for a very capable setup.
This should be a good, stout yet fast rolling option for rough rocks. I like mine in EXO.
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/maxxis-tomahawk-double-down-tr-tire-27.5in
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/maxxis-tomahawk-double-down-tr-tire-27.5in
Yup - I'm convinced you have to pay the 1000g minimum buy-in to get tires whose sidewalls don't suck.
But those tires - no 26"... no care!
yup . . . just went to search for 26" maxxis tires and only got one hit at CC (I know they make others, but I bet three years ago you would have found a dozen at CC): http://www.competitivecyclist.com/mountain-26-inch-tires?p=brand:Maxxis&nf=1
I like the fact that when you select 26" it also brings up 24" as well. same/same, right?
Does Maxxis make any 26" tire with their DD casing yet?yup . . . just went to search for 26" maxxis tires and only got one hit at CC (I know they make others, but I bet three years ago you would have found a dozen at CC): http://www.competitivecyclist.com/mountain-26-inch-tires?p=brand:Maxxis&nf=1
I like the fact that when you select 26" it also brings up 24" as well. same/same, right?
No. I read somewhere that they weren't planning to change that either.
But Maxxis does make that tire in a 26" version. And it's sub-1000g! Just barely though.
Wait a second... is this a new development??
Possibly changing tune on the TRS+
These things hook up just great, traction isn't the problem, but these are just not holding pressure with any consistency. I've had Schwable and Maxxis tires mounted up to these rims and they've been rock solid. These e13 are never the same pressure two days in a row. Shit, not even from climbing to descending. (fwiw: I was averaging 27 or 28psi front, about 30 rear) Properly mounted, plenty of sealant, same setup as the other brands.
Anyone else having anything similar with these tires? If this keeps up the experiment may be over.
Must buy proprietary rim to complete tire/wheel system with matching graphics.
Rim decals will be ordered asap.
Doctors assure me I'm a man...medically speaking.