[Kanye West]

So I'm now 4 slashes in 4 rides with these damn Maxxis EXO tires. They failed tubeless so I put in tubes until I buy something else....and slashed again. 25f 28r, 650B wheels with 25mm inner width rims. 185# bag of dicks.

Seriously, fuck these things. Time to fork over more money to the undeserving bike industry.

 

[marshalolson]

Slashing the center line, sidewalls, or both?

 

[Kanye West]

Always sidewalls.

 

[SylentK]

I thought the correct answer was downhil/DD casing?

You know what the definition of insanity is right?

 

[Kanye West]

I know the definition of laziness and having tubes sitting around...I'm also trying to avoid spending $150 for some faggy trail bike tires.

 

[jstuhlman]

So I'm now 4 slashes in 4 rides with these damn Maxxis EXO tires. They failed tubeless so I put in tubes until I buy something else....and slashed again. 25f 28r, 650B wheels with 25mm inner width rims. 185# bag of dicks.

Seriously, fuck these things. Time to fork over more money to the undeserving bike industry.

you must be doing it wrong. in 5+ years of running exos for hack-ass ruff trail riding (east coast rox included) with occasional dh days i have never, ever slashed a sidewall. burped, sure, every once in a while if i didn't keep on top of my pressure (although the tubeless-ready seemed to lock in quite nicely so fingers crossed). i weigh 165# and run 26", 26mm inner dia. rims at about the same pressures. your problem must therefore be too-big wheels, and one mm too small id.

 

[Westy]

you must be doing it wrong. in 5+ years of running exos for hack-ass ruff trail riding (east coast rox included) with occasional dh days i have never, ever slashed a sidewall. burped, sure, every once in a while if i didn't keep on top of my pressure (although the tubeless-ready seemed to lock in quite nicely so fingers crossed). i weigh 165# and run 26", 26mm inner dia. rims at about the same pressures. your problem must therefore be too-big wheels, and one mm too small id.

Perhaps his rocks are just too sharp.

 

[Kanye West]

you must be doing it wrong. in 5+ years of running exos for hack-ass ruff trail riding (east coast rox included) with occasional dh days i have never, ever slashed a sidewall. burped, sure, every once in a while if i didn't keep on top of my pressure (although the tubeless-ready seemed to lock in quite nicely so fingers crossed). i weigh 165# and run 26", 26mm inner dia. rims at about the same pressures. your problem must therefore be too-big wheels, and one mm too small id.

I've been running the EXO's the last few years without issue. Have they started to suck recently??

Our rocks are sharp here, and lots of situations where you have to take low lines between rocks, so perhaps more opportunity for sidewall slashing? Still the same terrain I've been riding them on for years.

 

[slyfink]

I came to post how awesome my first ride on my DHR II was. What an amazing upgrade from the Hans Dampf (to no ones surprise). Running EXO DHR II front and GRID Slaughter rear. Now I know what it's like to be able to corner...

@ Hack... Have your slashes all been on the rear tire? I'm hoping the GRID casing is tough enough for a rear tire. Otherwise I have a WTB Tough casing that will go on there...

 

[Kanye West]

No, equal front and rear. 1x on tubeless for each, 1x tubed for each.

Pretty sure the Grid casing is tougher. I'm also pretty sure that most condoms are tougher.

 

[slimshady]

Still the same terrain I've been riding them on for years.

I'm thinking trail degradation could lead to new/sharper exposed rocks. Traffic would certatainly have increased thoughout the years. It all adds up to moar chances to slash sidewalls.

 

[Kanye West]

Could be. It's been on multi-use trails in Santa Barbara and Ventura counties. On one hand, they get a lot of traffic. On the other hand, they do get maintained.

 

[Jm_]

So I'm now 4 slashes in 4 rides with these damn Maxxis EXO tires. They failed tubeless so I put in tubes until I buy something else....and slashed again. 25f 28r, 650B wheels with 25mm inner width rims. 185# bag of dicks.

Seriously, fuck these things. Time to fork over more money to the undeserving bike industry.

Have you tried changing your name?

 

[Kanye West]

Have you tried changing your name?

Yes, I have actually. I have great things planned.

 

[kidwoo]

Just go buy some specialized grid tires. Maxxis is all over the place with what they consider EXO now.

And no that doesn't mean a purgatory, you 29er humping fool. Butchers and slaughters. Nothing else need exist.

 

[DaveW]

Their rear tyres suck, but the Mavic Crossmax Charge on the front is really good.
more beef in the sidewalls than the EXO's and pretty damn grippy for sure.

for the last week and a bit I've been experimenting with the TRS+ in the dual compound on the back of the bike.
So far no problems with air loss, these things love the wet rocks and roots!
BUT on the rear they are shit on muddy climbs (waaaay worse than the slippery Mavic Quest they replaced).
The ramped centre knobs just won't grip when you put any power thru them in the mud.
I could turn the tyre around to get climbing grip, but then I'd loose the awesome braking that I have.
I think these would make brilliant front tyres for rocks and roots, just not so great (for me riding up) on the rear.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

you must be doing it wrong. in 5+ years of running exos for hack-ass ruff trail riding (east coast rox included) with occasional dh days i have never, ever slashed a sidewall. burped, sure, every once in a while if i didn't keep on top of my pressure (although the tubeless-ready seemed to lock in quite nicely so fingers crossed). i weigh 165# and run 26", 26mm inner dia. rims at about the same pressures. your problem must therefore be too-big wheels, and one mm too small id.

The further west you get the sharper the rocks get. Fucking things are like scalpels in, say, AZ or OR...

 

[Kanye West]

Just go buy some specialized grid tires. Maxxis is all over the place with what they consider EXO now.

And no that doesn't mean a purgatory, you 29er humping fool. Butchers and slaughters. Nothing else need exist.

No more 29er actually. Though I still have it for sale.

Some Grid casing tires are looking the most reasonable price-wise actually.

 

[Jm_]

The further west you get the sharper the rocks get. Fucking things are like scalpels in, say, AZ or OR...

Until you get to California, where it's all flow trails and dirt road highways.

 

[Kanye West]

Until you get to California, where it's all flow trails and dirt road highways.

Yup. Flat paved roads here.

 

[Floor Tom]

Just go buy some specialized grid tires. Maxxis is all over the place with what they consider EXO now.

And no that doesn't mean a purgatory, you 29er humping fool. Butchers and slaughters. Nothing else need exist.

This, but like I said earlier in the thread the Hill Billy is also the "good" Grid casing.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Yup. Flat paved roads here.

So it sort of looks like weathered quartzite, but I'm not seeing stuff that would cut sidewalls...

 

[Kanye West]

It's all sandstone around here. Landing/sliding through the low points in these rocks seems to do it. I'm pretty sure it was this exact section that did it yesterday actually. In the air coming off high left, landing in the shit in the middle, going off the screen lower right.

I wonder if it's just when the tire is loaded heavily and the sidewall is pushed out to the side it's seeing vertical rock edges?

 

[kidwoo]

So it sort of looks like weathered quartzite, but I'm not seeing stuff that would cut sidewalls...

Just stop.

California is it's own country for fucks sake. There's literally everything here. Angular shaley shit too.

 

[4130biker]

No more 29er actually. Though I still have it for sale.

I'm on a med, and looking for a large. Link to sale?

Yup. Flat paved roads here.

looks rad- and looks like ginger riding or DH casing territory to me.. Have you considered just rocking a DH casing rear? (Apologies if we've covered this)

 

[4130biker]

Just stop.

California is it's own country for fucks sake. There's literally everything here. Angular shaley shit too.

Cali has east coast rox?!

 

[Kanye West]

I'm on a med, and looking for a large. Link to sale?

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1934392/

Definitely best to size up with these bikes, especially if running a short stem.

 

[kidwoo]

Cali has east coast rox?!

They were imported in the 1800s to make settlers feel more at home.

And to assist the chinamen building the railroad.

 

[Metamorphic]

Following my load of EXO tires that have detonated recently, here is a double down Aggressor with 8 rides on it. Counting my lucky stars a big patch my buddy had held the tube in for the ride down the mtn. Pisgah National Forest NC.

 

[kidwoo]

haha......that's not even a gash.

That's just shitty tire construction.




Things I've also leart today: pisgah is a national forest, and located in north carolina

 

[jstuhlman]

haha......that's not even a gash.

That's just shitty tire construction.




Things I've also leart today: pisgah is a national forest, and located in north carolina

'mon over!

 

[wiscodh]

And to assist the chinamen building the railroad.

Also dude, chinamen is not the preferred nomenclature, Asian American. Please.

 

[dump]

What are you folks still discussing? If an unproven tweener-thickness sidewall will work out? If maxxis still knows how to make tires in anything but 26"? If california rocks are as sharp as beast-coast-rox? If woo's born-on-tire-freshness-date has any there there?

Get a DH tire and HTFU.

Alternatively, refer to http://ridemonkey.bikemag.com/threads/what-trail-bike-tire-casings-dont-suck.276601/#post-4135694

 

[DaveW]

Cali has east coast rox?!

Its it's own country Brah..... better build a wall around those foreign fuckers stat!
Oh and don't for get to make them pay for it or you'll cut their water off.

 

[4130biker]

Its it's own country Brah..... better build a wall around those foreign fuckers stat!
Oh and don't for get to make them pay for it or you'll cut their water off.

Wall off California? that sounds intriguing

 

[kidwoo]

Wall off California? that sounds intriguing

Can we just put the wall at about 3000 feet? It's really the lowlanders that are the problem.

'mon over!

I used to practically live there. I'd like to ride the place again on bikes that don't suck. Fancy disc brakes n' shit.

 

[toodles]

So sick of flat tyres on my trailbike right now. Tried an Exo HR2 with some success, think I'll go back to that. The DHR2 Exo I tried managed to somehow combine being heavy and slow rolling with pinch flatting constantly and having fairly average grip. Put an Ikon on for a long trail ride/race recently and it actually surprised me for its levels of grip/speed but flats too damn easily as well. Really don't want a DH tyre on my already overweight trail bike.

 

[Gary]

pinch flatting constantly

Put MOAR fucken air in FFS!

 

[wydopen]

What are you folks still discussing? If an unproven tweener-thickness sidewall will work out? If maxxis still knows how to make tires in anything but 26"? If california rocks are as sharp as beast-coast-rox? If woo's born-on-tire-freshness-date has any there there?

Get a DH tire and HTFU.

Alternatively, refer to http://ridemonkey.bikemag.com/threads/what-trail-bike-tire-casings-dont-suck.276601/#post-4135694

No need for dh tires...

2.4 Hr2 in exo up front and a grid slaughter in the rear....riding the same trails he does and I rarely flat...

Some of the newer exo tires seem lighter than the old ones...stick with the 2.4 Hr2's or dhf 2.3's..work great...if you want to ride the good trails around here you're in for 3000+ feet of climbing...not really fun with 1200g tires..

 

[dump]

No need for dh tires...

Hear that Hacktastic? Now, get some of what wydopen recommends ... and if they tear, you'll know what to do.

This being RM, discussions will continue 5 more years.