What trail bike tire casings don't suck?
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What pressure did you run them at and as stated the purple ultra soft is a lot grippier. And at that grip astonishing long lasting as a front tire.
Got the Assegai / DHR2 combo on the DH bike. Really Really like it.
Downhill casings. Front is MaxxGrip and rear is Single (Boo, 26" only in 3C-MG, ST or Single) the others are just too much to pedal on the stupid transfers at the "local" hills. A Dual or 3C-MT would be very nice.
Downhill casings. Front is MaxxGrip and rear is Single (Boo, 26" only in 3C-MG, ST or Single) the others are just too much to pedal on the stupid transfers at the "local" hills. A Dual or 3C-MT would be very nice.
been running that out back the past year or so, with a 2.5 dhf up front in the north carolina dirt/rocks/mostly loose over hard. no complaints. both doubledown casing. because the peace of mind is worth the weight penalty.The DHR2 2.4" DD/3C MaxxTerra is available in both 27 and 29. It will be my next rear tire, as I prefer Maxxterra for a grip/longevity compromise too.
Maxxis Minion DHR II 3C MaxxTerra/DD TR 27.5" Tire - Width: 2.3", 2.4"
Maxxis Minion DHR II 3C MaxxTerra/DD TR 27.5" Tire - Width: 2.3", 2.4" :: From $101.00 :: Maxxis 27.5 Inch (650b) Tireswww.universalcycles.com
Maxxis Minion DHR II 3C MaxxTerra/DD TR 29" Tire - Width: 2.3", 2.4"
Maxxis Minion DHR II 3C MaxxTerra/DD TR 29" Tire - Width: 2.3", 2.4" :: From $101.00 :: Maxxis 29 Inch Tires
Yes, all the Maxxis 2.3s have too puny of side knobs, imho.
I actually didn't mind the dhr II or higj roller
Also what size ie width?
I have no issues landing drops off camber in hard pack shit dirt and ripping what we call kitty litter for dirt here...only time I had an issue was either too low of psi and they felt sluggish but so have any tire I've ran and the sidewall rolled a bit..tried some 2.8 maxxis NEVER AGAIN.. felt like I was wrestling a marshmallow and losing...
If you have too thin of rims and expose too much sidewall...they are a larger volume tire.
Not saying they didn't work for you we all have different preferences for how and what we ride
Just trying to see if you gave em a fair shake or possibly a reason unforseen..or it could be they just didn't work for you...
What psi did you run them?
Also what size ie width?
I have no issues landing drops off camber in hard pack shit dirt and ripping what we call kitty litter for dirt here...only time I had an issue was either too low of psi and they felt sluggish but so have any tire I've ran and the sidewall rolled a bit..tried some 2.8 maxxis NEVER AGAIN.. felt like I was wrestling a marshmallow and losing...
If you have too thin of rims and expose too much sidewall...they are a larger volume tire.
Not saying they didn't work for you we all have different preferences for how and what we ride
Just trying to see if you gave em a fair shake or possibly a reason unforseen..or it could be they just didn't work for you...
I was running the 29x2.40s. Ran 20 and 21 psi in the front, 22 and 23 psi in the rear. I weigh 165 and ride trails that don't have rocks.
I've heard great things about the purple ultra soft compound, but 1,330g for a front tire (29x2.40 SG) can fuck right off.
Sucks they dropped/changed the 2.35" tyre. Not sure why but there's a significant weight difference between the 2.4 and 2.35 versions from what I've seen, and they really don't appear to be much bigger.
They apparently really beefed up all their casings with the whole new "Super" change last year. Maybe they got tired of getting a bad wrap for having casings made out of tissue paper and knobs that tore off easily? Even the Super Trail casings got way heavier than the old Addix SnakeSkin ones. I previously had a set of 29x2.35 Addix Soft Snake Skin Magic Marys that were between 900-1000g, and the new Super Trail 29x2.40 was 1230. I have no idea why they don't make an UltraSoft Super Trail version now - it'd be fine for a tough trail tire.
This 100%.
1400g on my scale. i recently swapped from SG MM / BB to DD DHR2 / EXO+AG (fuckyeahacronyms) and dropped a full pound of rotating weight. i'm not heavy and/or smashy enough to *really* need a SG casing anyways, just need ultrasoft rubber for our wetcoast conditions. an ultrasoft supertrail MM would sure be nice. i hate paying maxxis pricing (esp. with how quickly they get used up).
BTW, DHRIIs are out of stock nearly everywhere in 29" DD Terra 2.5 flavour... grab some now if you need. I think it's a very popular tire.
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27/2.35 TRS Race is one of my favorite front tires. Good grip, rolling resistance OK, no issues tubeless, great side knobs, wears OK. Works much better than certain *cough*ock'r*cough* tires at much less weight on my trails. I have one on le bike now. Other e13 tires suck.
Seems like they are on 3rd revision. Kinda heavy. What casing in maxxis flavor would u compare their trail casing to?
i run 27.5...and will likely try something different on the back next time. i think i prefer a dhf, actually. but will still check on supply...
Exo+, ish for their lightest offering.
I like them for a faster rolling tire, oriented towards drier/firmer conditions that still grips really well. Mostly run the enduro casing. They can be insanely hard to get on and off though. The bead is really, really tight.
Scott's DH team manager recently wrote on a french forum that Assegai and DHR2 in different constellation covers 95% of the needs of his riders. Assegai front and dhr2 back is by far the most used combo
For our dirt I've been loving the aggressor 2.5 DD for a while out back and I've been fine on an EXO assegai out front. I've always preferred some rolling speed out back and knowing that the rear will drift before the front lets go. No issues with local stuff or the Piz either. The 2.5 aggressor is a much better tire than the 2.3 in terms of grip and predictability IMO. Hard to find those aggressors right now tho.
For anyone interested, Evo is selling the E*13 TRS Race A/T for $56, pretty solid deal in a world of few discounts and even worse availability. Been running a DHR2 EXO+ out back and keen to try this tire. https://www.evo.com/tires/ethirteen-trs-race-all-terrain-tire-29#image=153247/643711/ethirteen-trs-race-all-terrain-tire-29-.jpg
It’s a ‘short-block’ now, worth double.
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Spesh ElmntrBlckDmnd is on my rear wheel now. I dig it. My second-most-favorite rear tire after MinionSS DD, with more aggressive tread that works great in shoulder seasons here.
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Also have been running an SE4 on the back of the full suspension bike. It has lived a much easier life but as also been fine.
For comparison, I have destroyed two EXO casings on the fully on the same trails in less time than I have ran the Bontragers.
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75 psi FTW!!
tbh, on the big burly gnar day, I ended up riding my OG Megatrail, so perhaps not the ultimate test. But I rode it on some other fast and smashy stuff, and it survived fine. I've also ridden the XR4 a lot in various other places and haven't had a problem [knocks on faux hardwood floor]
I’ve also had luck with the XR4 and XR5 on the trail bike. They wear well and have dealt with my 200 pounds admirably. Frequently priced pretty reasonably as well.
We just started a Vittoria account so I ordered a few each of all their MTB tires except the Mezcal XC tire and I didn't get any in "XC" casing. Their "Trail" and "Enduro" casings are supposed to be similar to EXO+ and Double Down. They're all available in 2.35" or 2.6", which on paper sounded a little too small or too big. I was assured their 2.6 is similar to an Assegai 2.5, rather than a Dissector 2.6 (which is kinda a "plus" size), so I ordered all 2.6s. No rubber compound options. Their MSRP is $10-30 less than Maxxis so that alone seemed reason enough to try carrying them. When I get back from my DH vacation in BuckoW world they should be in so I'll give'em a try. Anyone have any experience with them?
I've been through a set of "Trail" Gomas (discontinued model, 2.4 F, 2.25 R) and while I liked the casing and rubber compound, their shape was too tall/rounded for my likings, leading to the corner knobs sitting too low on the shoulder. And once the grippier surface compound got worn out (which unfortunately didn't take that much), the exposed harder substrate made them a death trap on wet and loose over hardpack. Came back to Maxxis DHRs afterwards.
I'd say their "Trail" casing is a bit more supportive than the regular EXO on Maxxis. Their volume always measures taller and narrower than advertized, at least for the XC models my fellows have been riding and the Gomas I went through.
I've been tempted to try a set of their newer models (Mazza F, Martello R) but since I haven't been riding that much I never got up to the point of ordering them.
Looking forward to your experience/review!
EDIT: I've just noticed they discontinued their DH line. Bummer.
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I ran Gomas in the past and was always impressed by the casings and the compound (for trail use). Agree that the profile was too round. When those went away, I tried some of the new "graphene" tires and they were really squirmy and traction on wet roots was spectacularly poor. Bummed as I'd have liked new tire profile / tread pattern on the old Goma carcass. Kinda like the Mich WR2, just leave construction the same and add some Maxxis copy cat patterns. It's not that hard.
Mazzas are actually some rework of the Gomas, at least the center blocks look pretty similar, but with a squarer profile. Maybe the Enduro casing is worth it.
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re the tall and narrow comment: what (inner) width rims are you running them on?