[kidwoo]

"You seen son, when we were your age, mountain biking was small enough that it was run by people who cared about the sport, because they all did it themselves. They even used to make design decisions based on what made bikes better. Hard to believe now I know, but it's true"

 

[StiHacka]

IMHO 15x100 and 12x142 are a dead evolution branch already. Even if people won't ride them a lot, the "plus wheels option" will become the new resale value mantra and the wide spaced hubs will be the great unifier of everything having rims narrower than 4", until a new must have feature appears.

 

[SubV]

I tend to adopt new standards a bit late and am careful about buying frames, forks and hubs as a result of this. I find the ever changing standards roughly as annoying as most folks posting in this thread, but I have a different take on this "plus" standard that seems to be gaining momentum.

Here's why: the fitness and athleticism buy-in for new mountain bikers is pretty damn high. Most folks introduced to the sport are in their heels for a fair amount of time. They get more gassed than they have known since middle school wrestling on the climbs, and piss their pants on the downs. Most normal humans ride bikes in the mountains because of how much damn fun it is to descend. So if the + bikes give a more forgiving descending experience but aren't as stupid heavy in the wheel department as the current, fucktarded fat bikes I see more and more of, I would hope that + bikes grow the sport a little.

Posted from your Mom's house.

 

[4130biker]

Posted from your Mom's house.

 

[jstuhlman]

I find the ever changing standards roughly as annoying as most folks posting in this thread.

Couldn't agree more! Most folks posting in this thread are pretty damn annoying!

 

[vinny4130]

Giants overdrive 2 wasn't that bad of an idea, any tapered 44 upper head tube can be od2 the cup,bearing, spacers and stem change but that's about it. It's was an existing head tube standard that maxamized the steertube size. In my opinion about the same as 35mm bars not 100% nessary but does increase stiffness. I own a bike that is od2 and its not a giant.

 

[SubV]

Couldn't agree more! Most folks posting in this thread are pretty damn annoying!

Well. Poor grammar.

 

[Vrock]

I don't care about the front hub, it's a dirty cheap part and easy to change. The rear hub is another history, it's quite expensive and it forces you to change too many parts. If you want to build a Symetric rear wheel you can use an asymetric rim or an asymetric rear triangle, just like Cannondale and Pyga are starting to use...

 

[Muddy]

Boost 150.

 

[jonKranked]

Just to fuck with us, next year trek and sram are gonna introduce a hub standard in inches

 

[4130biker]

Just to fuck with us, next year trek and sram are gonna introduce a hub standard in inches

Or maybe a new bicycle specific unit of measurement will be unveiled!

 

[tomasis7]

1.4353453454 .. will be hard to remember then let's buy a complete bike instead.

 

[jstuhlman]

BicycleMeasurement=BM... hmmm... coincidence?

 

[4130biker]

BicycleMeasurement=BM... hmmm... coincidence?

I like it! I wonder how many BMs would represent boost 148, for example?

 

[Muddy]

I like it! I wonder how many BMs would represent boost 148, for example?

Two-Scoops?

 

[6thElement]

1 cup.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

I keep meaning to go measure all this shit on the tracer. Someday I may do that.

 

[jstuhlman]

don't bother. all you need to know is that it's unrideable.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

I have noticed that. Maybe I need 650B++?

 

[dropmachine]

The bike industry is awesome. I'm pretty sure they base i on the car industry, and try and introduce as much buttfuckery as they can without inciting a revolt. 142...fine, I get it. People are too stupid to line up axles so they need slots. Fine. I'll concede that there are a lot of dumb people out there. And fine, people are too stupid to understant 20mm and will always think its too heavy, so out comes 15mm. Sigh. Fine. I see why you did that industry.

But going from 15mmx100 to 15mmx110? Boost 148 instead of just using 150mm? 94 different BB standards? Giant Overdrive?

I can't wait for whatever comes next, especially if its a SRAM press release.

"SRAM is proud to introduce Boost lite 146+™!! Featuring 146mm wide hubs with a 1mm ramp on each side, now stiffer by 01381% according to Bobs™ calculator™ of stiffyness™. Featuring new Painal™ Bearings, ButtBlood™ lube, Dryshaft™ spokes, and something else witty that indicated how hard you're gonna get it. ™".

Fuck you industry guys, fuck you right to hell.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Latest standard: http://riderungu.com/models/kilimanjaro/

 

[Westy]

In the future either side of your rim and hub and BB will be independently controlled and infinitely variable to provide the optimal hub/BB/rim width for your riding conditions. This will initially be controlled by a series of levers on your handlebar but will eventually be computer controlled. No gearbox bike will ever be successful but eventually a chainless quantum entanglement drive will be developed. None of this will make biking any more enjoyable but eventually chains and parts for fixed width systems will no longer be available.

 

[Flo33]

Latest standard: http://riderungu.com/models/kilimanjaro/

Quote from link:

• 29” front wheels overcome obstacles up to 6” tall at crawl speed.

That's the only speed this abomination is ever being rideable at, I guess.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

At 53 pounds or thereabouts, I guess so.

 

[HAB]

At 53 pounds or thereabouts, I guess so.

So, they took a mountain bike, made it heavier, and TOOK AWAY THE ABILITY TO LEAN IT OVER and somehow this is an improvement?

 

[johnbryanpeters]

I don't think it can't lean, but the transition's probably pretty interesting. I'm not sure who they think might buy this. It might have been better packaged, with different tire tread, and perhaps tassels, as a tavern-to-tavern ride.

 

[HAB]

I don't think it can't lean, but the transition's probably pretty interesting. I'm not sure who they think might buy this. It might have been better packaged, with different tire tread, and perhaps tassels, as a tavern-to-tavern ride.

Okay, way harder to lean, and with an abrupt transition. My point stands.

A bar bike makes more sense, but if you're so hammered that balancing a normal bike is a challenge, you're probably better off not being anywhere near traffic.

 

[jonKranked]

Okay, way harder to lean, and with an abrupt transition. My point stands.

A bar bike makes more sense, but if you're so hammered that balancing a normal bike is a challenge, you're probably better off not being anywhere near traffic.

if you're drunk enough to think riding that is a good idea, you should probably call a cab. (assuming you can still operate a phone)

 

[HAB]

if you're drunk enough to think riding that is a good idea, you should probably call a cab. (assuming you can still operate a phone)

There is not enough liquor in the world.

 

[kidwoo]

You can't even give womenfolk a ride on the handlebars
When something is useless as even a bar bike, you've truly reached the pinnacle of uselessness itself.

 

[vinny4130]

In the future either side of your rim and hub and BB will be independently controlled and infinitely variable to provide the optimal hub/BB/rim width for your riding conditions. This will initially be controlled by a series of levers on your handlebar but will eventually be computer controlled. No gearbox bike will ever be successful but eventually a chainless quantum entanglement drive will be developed. None of this will make biking any more enjoyable but eventually chains and parts for fixed width systems will no longer be available.

You heard it here first folks the 2016 bionicon lineup!

 

[big-ted]

Clearly, this is the result of an engineer getting REALLY fed up with his product manager saying they need to produce a bike with suspension 'forks.'

 

[jstuhlman]

now in triple fat! http://riderungu.com/juggernaut/

 

[Bikael Molton]

I hate heel rub on frames. ;(