What Broke there? I see separation?
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What Broke there? I see separation?
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Those were the days, then again I was 20+ years youngerBrake therapy, hopey, twenty6, stratos, zzyzx, Middleburn, race face quality, DW, good battles between dw, Darren , Craig, avy cult, kittens in marzocchi and shimzzzz...
Those days pop into my head periodically and I'll start laughing at some of the goofy shit we did or said....Those were the days, then again I was 20+ years younger
At the beginning of Covid I had a fire sale of old shit laying around to buy my Evil Offering. First thing I sold was a set of EX823's laced to some Hope Big Un's, and a Stratos S7. The beginning of the DH wave was the best!Those days pop into my head periodically and I'll start laughing at some of the goofy shit we did or said....
Yeah been a few minutes....
Ha, I gave a mate a pair of wheels with Middleburn hubs and told him at some point the rear one will die, possibly in a big way, because they were shit.Brake therapy, hopey, twenty6, stratos, zzyzx, Middleburn, race face quality, DW, good battles between dw, Darren , Craig, avy cult, kittens in marzocchi and shimzzzz...
Sorry,I was talking to you WestCoast,I did not enter it properly with picture.No Brother,that is Not the First Shot in you’re Post. The First shot is different. That is the last shot if I am not mistaken,it does not show the rotor as I said? It look’s like the 20mm Axel broke,or the Hub?
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Cranks rocked. Didn't know they had hubsHa, I gave a mate a pair of wheels with Middleburn hubs and told him at some point the rear one will die, possibly in a big way, because they were shit.
About six months ago he gave me the back wheel back and the hub was dead, I think the axle flexes so much that the drive shits out.
The front hub had caps that were held in by some Enduro seals, so pretty much every time you put the wheel in to the fork a cap would drop out.
EDIT- I think the rear axle also had 9mm stubs on it so it could move around in the DO which probably didn't help.
Again, pretty much every British bike product I have had has been shit.
Yeah, they were as shit as the cranks.Cranks rocked. Didn't know they had hubs
Never understood the draw of middleburn cranks, as in, how are these any different than any other cranks made out of solid metal?, like RF Turbine/Atlas, Truvative Holzfellers, FSA, etc...I mean, they are british..but apart from that, there seem to be numerous cranks that would do the same exact thing...Ha, I gave a mate a pair of wheels with Middleburn hubs and told him at some point the rear one will die, possibly in a big way, because they were shit.
About six months ago he gave me the back wheel back and the hub was dead, I think the axle flexes so much that the drive shits out.
The front hub had caps that were held in by some Enduro seals, so pretty much every time you put the wheel in to the fork a cap would drop out.
EDIT- I think the rear axle also had 9mm stubs on it so it could move around in the DO which probably didn't help.
Again, pretty much every British bike product I have had has been shit.
Well, the fact that there is more than one company manufacturing stems is going to blow your mind.Never understood the draw of middleburn cranks, as in, how are these any different than any other cranks made out of solid metal?, like RF Turbine/Atlas, Truvative Holzfellers, FSA, etc...I mean, they are british..but apart from that, there seem to be numerous cranks that would do the same exact thing...
Yeah but the nice open shaped forging let them flex more than their competitors, oh wait, that's not really a positive.Never understood the draw of middleburn cranks, as in, how are these any different than any other cranks made out of solid metal?, like RF Turbine/Atlas, Truvative Holzfellers, FSA, etc...I mean, they are british..but apart from that, there seem to be numerous cranks that would do the same exact thing...
I think it is called "I actually feel comfortable living in the country I am manufacturing my things because I am not just gonna outsource the dirty work and pollute someone else's place and exploit their workforce for my profit".It's called chauvinism, and makes a nice portion of advertising.
Yes, and I completely support the idea of domestic manufacturing, for the added benefits of local support, enhanced/skilled workforce and general economic improvements! I'm referring specifically to some brands who peddle the "made in XXX" as a way to add prestige to some inferior product. Case in point, Middleburn. I recall a friend lusting over those cranks back in the day, and then fitting them to his Kona Kilauea. Gosh those things might have looked good, but they performed awfully!I think it is called "I actually feel comfortable living in the country I am manufacturing my things because I am not just gonna outsource the dirty work and pollute someone else's place and exploit their workforce for my profit".
For the record: I have no problems with e.g. a chinese company producing in China or a taiwanese company in Taiwan. But these "Designed in the USA....manufactured in Asia" companies should just stop their BS.
Still better than companies advertising "handmade" bikes. As opposed to what? How many high end bikes are welded by robots? It's like claiming non GMO water.I think it is called "I actually feel comfortable living in the country I am manufacturing my things because I am not just gonna outsource the dirty work and pollute someone else's place and exploit their workforce for my profit".
For the record: I have no problems with e.g. a chinese company producing in China or a taiwanese company in Taiwan. But these "Designed in the USA....manufactured in Asia" companies should just stop their BS.
WHERE IS MY REP SYSTEM WHEN I NEED IT MOST!!!!Still better than companies advertising "handmade" bikes. As opposed to what? How many high end bikes are welded by robots? It's like claiming non GMO water.
That remind’s Jm,talking about a Lust for a Set of Crank’s. What was that Beautiful One Piece Crank(Spindle Drive Side Crank) years back? Was it Moot’s that made it? I think it was like 700 Dollars or more,was it Ti? Very Clean it was,no more info otherwise. Can not remember who made it?Never understood the draw of middleburn cranks, as in, how are these any different than any other cranks made out of solid metal?, like RF Turbine/Atlas, Truvative Holzfellers, FSA, etc...I mean, they are british..but apart from that, there seem to be numerous cranks that would do the same exact thing...
Cane creek eewings is the modern iteration of an older crank that was a similar configurationThat remind’s Jm,talking about a Lust for a Set of Crank’s. What was that Beautiful One Piece Crank(Spindle Drive Side Crank) years back? Was it Moot’s that made it? I think it was like 700 Dollars or more,was it Ti? Very Clean it was,no more info otherwise. Can not remember who made it?
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I do not know how you fount him,but Thank You. Dave was on the Very Top of my List of pure Hate as a Rider. He had a way of being sooo Smooth while riding what to me was impossible? I remember The RedBull GingerByne(sp?)Ausi,Ausi,Ausi. The First one on a Dam,or the Land of a Dam. I spoke to the Man himself who filmt it. VHS,he took my bank card and all. I Love that to this Day,have ya all seen it? Where Wade got a Flat on his Last Run? Shit,I got Brake Pump just watching it! Straight Down it was. Dave was on a Foes,it came Very Late,airplane trouble. He was not Himself. On his Last Drop I thought he was goin Die of the Huge Drop. He somehow got it together but Flew into the Hay Bail’s at the finish line. Off his Bike he went. Just some thought’s I had.a buddy used to work @ sombrio HQ for a bit; this piqued my curiosity as dave (sombrio founder) has been off the radar for a bit. seems he sold out to dorel (& most likely made some decent bank in the process), and is now ceo of this local e-gizmo company:
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Yes,that sounds right. How much, and we’re they Ti? I got a find a picture.Cane creek eewings is the modern iteration of an older crank that was a similar configuration
That’s Them Brother,good call. Now,how you reckon these compare to MiddleBurn? What’s that Hammer? Proper!Yes,that sounds right. How much, and we’re they Ti? I got a find a picture.
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I had one for 10 minutes, maybe 20. I really liked the suspension on it- fairly "linearly progressive" and mine had an avy shock on it that really performed well with the suspension.Zumbi?
There's one for sale close to us that a buddy is looking at.
Decent? Any known issues? Support?
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There isn't enough time left for that.tl;dr would buy and shred until it fell apart.
ive always had a seemingly irrational desire for one of those framesI had one for 10 minutes, maybe 20. I really liked the suspension on it- fairly "linearly progressive" and mine had an avy shock on it that really performed well with the suspension.
Issues- reservoir/swingarm clearance, and the assembly of the bearings/linkages can be a bear. There were some linkage flex issues that were resolved with a brace- that one doesn't seem to have the brace but it appears newer so it may have been resolved. @w00dy hated his for some reason, but I thought it was because sizing was way off what he expected. Mine was "fine" but this was in the day of short DH bikes, not 500mm reach measurements.
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tl;dr would buy and shred until it fell apart.
Nah he quit SC and went to Morewood. He's working over here building trails and freeride courses. Still a wildman on a bike.I’m glad this came up again. Nathen Rennie(sp?). Last I saw was a video of him on a Intense. Why did he get booted from Santa Cruz? I have heard it was drinking,but have no idea?
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Thank You,what does he ride? Is it Free for him? A recent Picture would be grand. He is Savage.Nah he quit SC and went to Morewood. He's working over here building trails and freeride courses. Still a wildman on a bike.
He ha a V10 last I saw him. Not sure if its a hook-up or not, but I assume he's got some deals going on. He's building jumps and a slopestyle course at the Kooralbyn Valley MTB in QLD, plus runs coaching clinics etc.Thank You,what does he ride? Is it Free for him? A recent Picture would be grand. He is Savage.
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He was auctioning some of his stuff off last year, jerseys and helmets. Got decent money but they were beat to fuck and imo mostly worthless.last thing i remember actually hearing about nathan rennie is that he got a dui. couple years ago.
he did turn up on the vintage dh forum a few times as well.
Zumbi?
There's one for sale close to us that a buddy is looking at.
Decent? Any known issues? Support?
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i seem to recall cracking as well.Did they not have some horrendous alignment issues?
Eating of bearings and idler pulley's rings a bell.
I always thought the ideas were good, but execution was a little soviet.