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missy hangs at snowshoe a lot (or did fairly recently). we hung out with her year before last. what a hoot.
Oh ya she’s on the trail crew. Usually at the old spruce every night. She’s a riot.
DT Swiss suspension - Why do they still make suspension? In my history of riding XC and DH, weekly group rides and bike trips thru multiple states ant popular riding places, I've never seen a DT fork. As for rear suspension I've only seen it years ago when Scott's had that weird pull shock thing. Nothing since then. Are they OE on any bikes? Popular in Europe?
Same thing for MRP and Cane Creek. I can't say that I've seen any CC and only a handful of MRP.
Do these companies really make a good amount of income from their suspension?
Same thing for MRP and Cane Creek. I can't say that I've seen any CC and only a handful of MRP.
Do these companies really make a good amount of income from their suspension?
Their 26" skeletal forks were pretty popular among the weight weenies of yore. So were their rear shocks because Scott and Merida equipped them on their XC models.
But the newer offerings are simply not seen outside of websites and Eurobike.
But the newer offerings are simply not seen outside of websites and Eurobike.
I see a handful of Cane Creeks out there, particularly shocks, but never any of the MRP forks and only 1 of the shocks (owner was not in love with it). I was wondering the same thing the other day WRT MRP, after seeing them show up in a PB video.
Seen plenty of CC stuff, less of the MRP.
CC was going strong back when that little inline coil came out, then they shit the bed all over the place and lost lots of consumer confidence. They were a pain to work on back then as well, wouldn't release any info or sell the tools required for a long time. You had to go through CC only.
MRP shocks are Elka, they just bought the design.
They must be selling somewhere, they recently were hiring for suspension techs. But they are rare even here in the homeland.
CC was going strong back when that little inline coil came out, then they shit the bed all over the place and lost lots of consumer confidence. They were a pain to work on back then as well, wouldn't release any info or sell the tools required for a long time. You had to go through CC only.
MRP shocks are Elka, they just bought the design.
They must be selling somewhere, they recently were hiring for suspension techs. But they are rare even here in the homeland.
Buddy wanted me to order him a dt fork last week...didnt end up doing it but for a moment he was dead set on it..
I once considered one of those DT R 535 shocks for my xc fully, living in Europe and all.... but info about their service and spare parts didnt exist, so that idea was thrown out quickly.
It has an interesting air spring though. Maybe I'll find one in the garbage in a couple of years...
It has an interesting air spring though. Maybe I'll find one in the garbage in a couple of years...
Lol that's what I told antwan...he was trying to save money for a new build and wanted something now..there was one cheap and he was going to sell his fox 36 for it plus cash..didn't ask, just answered him...if he didn't know me it would have hurt his feelings lol
DT bought out Pace suspension a while back. My experience with Pace was it looked cool, weighed less, but performed miserably - and that was when even a really good fork still kinda sucked.
For a little while I thought that some of the newer/smallle brands really were going to shake up the suspension market but righ now it feels like the options are fox/rockshox for outright performance, marzocchi for a budget fox option, manitou if you like nostalgia (though I hear they work really well).
Ohlins, DVO, MRP, CC, Intend, EXT etc you’re either paying a lot more, or getting much less in terms of outright performance or service support. If I see a custom specced bike with one of the above it feels like it’s a statement rather than a performance choice.
For a little while I thought that some of the newer/smallle brands really were going to shake up the suspension market but righ now it feels like the options are fox/rockshox for outright performance, marzocchi for a budget fox option, manitou if you like nostalgia (though I hear they work really well).
Ohlins, DVO, MRP, CC, Intend, EXT etc you’re either paying a lot more, or getting much less in terms of outright performance or service support. If I see a custom specced bike with one of the above it feels like it’s a statement rather than a performance choice.
I still have an RC41 Fighter. Super light with 20 mm axle. The performance was/is not too bad for such a light fork, only the HSC damping is weak. A heavier rider might find it too flexy. I prefered its performance over the 150 mm RS Revelation.
TPC+ Manitous always felt right to me, I like how progressive their air forks are too.
According to Rulezman, Intend is the best suspension. I guess I will never find out because I am too stingy. But seriously, Intend gets great customer reviews and you can get updates and spare parts no problem, at least in Europe.
plenty of cc around here...but i live in the heart of cc land.
no doubt that intend gets good reviews, my comment regarding them being an outsider choice is that they’re beyond expensive.
good to hear that pace had some good forks in the line up. I had a RC37 evo (I think, been a while) and rode on a Monster a few times. They looked dope, but struggled with consistency and my fork was somewhat fragile. Would love a pub bike with one of their rigid forks.
I must be hording all the unicorns. There's a CC shock and an MRP Ribbon on my daughter's RFX. Also a DVO Diamond on my hardtail, and a Mezzer Pro on my enduro. Happy with the performance of all them (Mezzer>Diamond>Ribbon).
I am doing my part on the Cane-Creek front, I have two coil and one air double-barrel.
Speaking of odd-ball suspension pieces...I still have a Magura Wotan. After Suspension-Werx got done with it it was pretty decent fork.
Speaking of odd-ball suspension pieces...I still have a Magura Wotan. After Suspension-Werx got done with it it was pretty decent fork.
I’m kind of surprised that Magura haven’t tried to enter the suspension market again. The Big Ego was iconic, and the Wotan seemed to be a good option in the long travel adjustable sector. Does it have the twin arch design?
I had a ts8 150 magura. Wasnt a bad fork verse what options for the time.
My GF gas a DT fork on her hardtail. It is incredibly complicated inside as you can see on the picture below. Performance has room for improvement if you ask me but it's a xc fork so maybe it is fine...
I get it. But I put a DVO custom tuned Topaz on the back of my Spartan after my mishap with Avalanche. I think it was $475 for a custom tuned shock and it did what the Avalanche was supposed to do. I'm more sold on the DVO stuff cause it's not as outrageous as Elka or EXT.
A buddy has one of those on his hardtail. Absolute gong show internally haha. Glad I don't have to service it.
I probably will never need to service it again, we got her a new bike
Her new bike, some sort of downcountry
, is much more confidence inspiring than her old school 26" hardtail and has a better fork: a bomber z2. I didn't know what to expect from the Z2 but it feels quite ok
Well buddy bought the dt fork...not through me or from me ..I assume to responsibility for this purchase...said he wants me to go through it when it comes in ..ehhh be curious to pull it apart.
On another note ROCKGARDN , mark makes Suspension now for surrons..basic design, kept it simple , not great but has potential...
On another note ROCKGARDN , mark makes Suspension now for surrons..basic design, kept it simple , not great but has potential...
There is a name I have not heard in a long time.
Still have one of their ubiquitous 3/4 jerseys in a box somewhere....
I'm hoping to get more than one season out of my DVO shocks (but the one on the winter bike puked at the end of last season). The one on my Balance is wacky and harsh tho, it's super light damping and the rebound only does something until like the last 2-3 clicks. I sent it to DVO and they said it was fine.
The ext shock is really good on the two bikes I've ridden with them
How'd the avalanche deal go,
No lsc and semi truck rebound?
Dvo the sticker mfg?
Maybe send it back to sr suntor the mfg.
Maybe, they said they *could* do a custom tune on it, which I'm not sure is very "custom"...but otherwise, it's just a backup for the Ohlins anyway, or at least that's the intention. Ohlins seems to want to get it right, in talking with them, so that's cool. And the other backup is a bomber CR that I tuned more than halfway decent.
Holly englertracing,sr suntor,you are serious aren’t you? I have not heard of this before.
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