[Tantrum Cycles]

Everyone was not "fond" of the Stratos gear is the point. Some of their stuff worked, they came up with the inertia valve (but failed to effectively protect the intellectual property).

They didn't come up with the inertia valve. I was "partners" with the guy that did, Don Richardson, in the early 90's. We used it in a different form on Nissan GTP cars and Citroen Rally/Raid cars.

Mike/Stratos had a proper license for the inertia valve patent from Don. But a much larger company used a bogus patent to put Mike in court until he ran out of money, even though he was in the right.

This big company was later found out and "penalized" for their actions.

Too late for Mike, quality issues notwithstanding

Maybe this belongs in "What's wrong with the industry?"

 

[Lelandjt]

TBH, 50:1 chucks out some cool clips, but half their vids are a bit more bromantic and jibby than I prefer. And 300% more vegan too.

What's the deal with "50:01"? I haven't seen a moto in any of their videos. Did they used to ride moto (2 strokes in particular) or are they kind of wanna be motohead posers?

 

[Sandro]

TBut a much larger company used a bogus patent to put Mike in court until he ran out of money, even though he was in the right.

This big company was later found out and "penalized" for their actions.

Hmm, would that be a company that is specialized in litigious douchebaggery?

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

gonna lightly place this right here:

 

[jonKranked]

gonna lightly place this right here:

Rich posted that like a week or 2 ago on FB. insanity.

 

[jonKranked]

They didn't come up with the inertia valve. I was "partners" with the guy that did, Don Richardson, in the early 90's. We used it in a different form on Nissan GTP cars and Citroen Rally/Raid cars.

Mike/Stratos had a proper license for the inertia valve patent from Don. But a much larger company used a bogus patent to put Mike in court until he ran out of money, even though he was in the right.

This big company was later found out and "penalized" for their actions.

Too late for Mike, quality issues notwithstanding

Maybe this belongs in "What's wrong with the industry?"

I remember hearing about that. Once i learned of that, it was the last time i bought a product from that "larger" company.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

Rich posted that like a week or 2 ago on FB. insanity.

The only thing I can think of is...Japan, could sell for that price.

 

[jonKranked]

The only thing I can think of is...Japan, could sell for that price.

seriously.

 

[mykel]

I remember hearing about that. Once i learned of that, it was the last time i bought a product from that "larger" company.

When they started actual bike sales with a "stolen" frame....
Did you expect them to get more ethical as they got bigger?
Fuck Sinyard and his acolytes.

 

[slimshady]

Whatever happened to Pablo Tafoya? His last venture into suspension design was with Black Market and the Hammer Link IIRC... I'm asking because I was looking at BM's Enduro bike and found his posts here at the from that time.

 

[Electric_City]

Huck_bonzai?

 

[slimshady]

Huck_bonzia?

I think his nick here was @Kamanchi

 

[jonKranked]

Huck_bonzia?

he relocated to washington states and rides the largest size geometron available.

 

[jonKranked]

I think his nick here was @Kamanchi

https://ridemonkey.bikemag.com/members/huck-banzai.12106/

 

[slimshady]

https://ridemonkey.bikemag.com/members/huck-banzai.12106/

Gotcha, I thought @Electric_City was answering my question. My bad.

 

[jonKranked]

Gotcha, I thought @Electric_City was answering my question. My bad.

oh, yea that wasn't huck banzai. i know HB personally, and that's his status.

 

[Electric_City]

he relocated to washington states and rides the largest size geometron available.

I knew that he moved, but he hasn't posted in a year or so.

 

[jonKranked]

I knew that he moved, but he hasn't posted in a year or so.

i chatted with him on FB a few days ago.

 

[slyfink]

was wondering what happened to Norbs... so I looked it up. He's on Evil now, whith Aggy and a few others that I think may have been searched for on this thread... Bubba Warren and Genovese.

what bikes am I looking at here?

 

[Electric_City]

what bikes am I looking at here?

Low, Extra low, Lower than Extra Low, Hell

https://www.bikemag.com/palmers-peeves/palmers-peeves-3/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=02.08.19.BIKE.ENE+3&wc_mid=4036:15805&wc_rid=4036:2499461&_wcsid=3B3CE3F537E8AE0E529D5162B224908EA8976E4DD4820131

 

[HardtailHack]

Whatever happened to Pablo Tafoya? His last venture into suspension design was with Black Market and the Hammer Link IIRC... I'm asking because I was looking at BM's Enduro bike and found his posts here at the from that time.

Yeah I was thinking of getting one of them until I saw his name. I still have to kick my Corsair to the side every now and again to access something that has fallen under the bench.

 

[commencaldh]

whatever happened to that company who made custom bikes and had a bunch of disputes over ridemonkey, the name escapes me but I remember reading a thread about it on here

 

[DaveW]

whatever happened to that company who made custom bikes and had a bunch of disputes over ridemonkey, the name escapes me but I remember reading a thread about it on here

DUDE!
Where's my bike company name!

 

[D.E.T.]

whatever happened to that company who made custom bikes and had a bunch of disputes over ridemonkey, the name escapes me but I remember reading a thread about it on here

Nemesis Project?

 

[jonKranked]

Nemesis Project?

Don't say that name 3 times, Brad will show up and threaten you with a lawsuit.

 

[HardtailHack]

whatever happened to that company who made custom bikes and had a bunch of disputes over ridemonkey, the name escapes me but I remember reading a thread about it on here

He makes fixies I believe, that trend would surely be done by now so maybe he makes semi fat fixies now........?

 

[WestCoastHucker]

..that trend would surely be done by now...

you underestimate the stupidity of the hipsters...

 

[djjohnr]

you underestimate the stupidity of the hipsters...

Here in San Francisco they've moved on to electric scooters.

 

[jonKranked]

He makes fixies I believe, that trend would surely be done by now so maybe he makes semi fat fixies now........?

He makes mostly road stuff now. At least he did as of 2016.

 

[Jeremy R]

Here in San Francisco they've moved on to electric scooters.

If I was a terrorist leader, I would show all the recruits non stop footage of hipsters riding electric scooters.
That would really cement their hatred in there good.

 

[kidwoo]

If I was a terrorist leader, I would show all the recruits non stop footage of hipsters riding electric scooters.
That would really cement their hatred in there good.

soooo........ like you guys have a sign in sheet or what?

 

[slimshady]

If I was a terrorist leader, I would show all the recruits non stop footage of hipsters riding electric scooters.
That would really cement their hatred in there good.

Even better, get your recruits to hack the scooters and crash the hipsters into public places!!

https://www.wired.com/story/xiaomi-scooter-hack/

 

[WestCoastHucker]

Here in San Francisco they've moved on to electric scooters.

in that case, my statement still stands...

 

[jonKranked]

FTW ftw! good to see an interview with him, and that he still makes bikes.

https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/The-Inside-Line-Frank-The-Welder,2612

 

[djjohnr]

If I was a terrorist leader, I would show all the recruits non stop footage of hipsters riding electric scooters.
That would really cement their hatred in there good.

Thankfully natural selection is doing the job. There's been a ton of injuries with those things.

 

[jonKranked]

sp apparently canfield bros have licensed their suspension design/tech (which they own the patent on) to another company. Not sure how to interpret what this means for the future of the canfield brand.

https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/Introducing-Revel-Bikes,2580

 

[lobsterCT]

sp apparently canfield bros have licensed their suspension design/tech (which they own the patent on) to another company. Not sure how to interpret what this means for the future of the canfield brand.

https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/Introducing-Revel-Bikes,2580

I have no idea either, and only pure speculation to offer, but it seems Canfield very carefully cultivated a stellar customer service reputation over many years, and relatively recently stepped down from it.

Seems an ominous development and to my mind indicates major changes in progress. I"ve got a balance frame in the old parts bin, and think the rear end lateral stiffness and overall quality control is poor, with a design flaw at one of the lower pivot points, but that it is also a solid suspension design, and has an interesting take on geometry. I met Lance once on the chair lift, and hope whatever is happening, they do well personally.

 

[slyfink]

sp apparently canfield bros have licensed their suspension design/tech (which they own the patent on) to another company. Not sure how to interpret what this means for the future of the canfield brand.

https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/Introducing-Revel-Bikes,2580

I have no idea either, and only pure speculation to offer, but it seems Canfield very carefully cultivated a stellar customer service reputation over many years, and relatively recently stepped down from it.

Seems an ominous development and to my mind indicates major changes in progress. I"ve got a balance frame in the old parts bin, and think the rear end lateral stiffness and overall quality control is poor, with a design flaw at one of the lower pivot points, but that it is also a solid suspension design, and has an interesting take on geometry. I met Lance once on the chair lift, and hope whatever is happening, they do well personally.

If I'm not mistaken, at least three of those guys worked on/at Trust. With Weagle. Wasn't there a bit of a dust-up between Weagle and the brothers wrt to their system at one point?

 

[jonKranked]

I have no idea either, and only pure speculation to offer, but it seems Canfield very carefully cultivated a stellar customer service reputation over many years, and relatively recently stepped down from it.

Seems an ominous development and to my mind indicates major changes in progress. I"ve got a balance frame in the old parts bin, and think the rear end lateral stiffness and overall quality control is poor, with a design flaw at one of the lower pivot points, but that it is also a solid suspension design, and has an interesting take on geometry. I met Lance once on the chair lift, and hope whatever is happening, they do well personally.

from what i've heard the biggest thing that hurt canfield was that they bet against carbon (and lost). their lack of social media presence certainly doesn't help.

 

[Tantrum Cycles]

If I'm not mistaken, at least three of those guys worked on/at Trust. With Weagle. Wasn't there a bit of a dust-up between Weagle and the brothers wrt to their system at one point?

This is weird. does this mean those guys have left Trust just months after the big intro??

Or are they moonlighting?

Couldn't help but notice that thing has 18 bearings per bike, 12 x 21 x 5, which are extremely low in load rating...