it's possible they just contracted there for the development
whatever happened to...
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They were threatened with Legal action over the Riot name. But you are correct that carbon put them way behind. I hope that this licensing will help them pull through and build bikes again (that don't flex)
that's the first i've heard about the legal action.
and yea, i'd venture a guess that the licensing is a move to build some financial assets to get things moving again. would be a shame to see them go under, they're one of the few small/grassroots companies still around from the early days of DH.
Moar bearingz!
Do you know who was threatening?
I guess I'm waaaaaay behind on carbon. Oh well, I'm used to it.
I have taken a bit of heat for all my pivots, but I only have 14 bearing and NONE of them are that small
I think carbon put them behind, but the bigger issue in the industry is that to compete at the highest level, you need to invest beaucoup bucks into molds, hydroforming, and etc., which means the little guys can't be as nimble. Canfield probably couldn't update their frames fast enough to keep up with ever changing standards, geometry, etc. And then when everything is done in china and takes a year or so to go from start to finish, you really need to be careful with your choices.
That's why the GG success story is so awesome. They kept everything local so they can change on the fly and keep releasing new frames at their whim. Now if this carbon thing is the real deal, it'll be pretty amazing.
18 bearings on a frame where they brag about their center of curvature (anti-squat instant center for Linkage users) that can be matched exactly with a classic single pivot.
Off topic but I've been wondering if you can legally just throw those things in a dumpster. If you leave shit on the sidewalk isn't it considered litter at some point?
How long can you leave something lying around before it's legally up for grabs?
Ghost Trade Marked the name Riot. So Canfield Just spelled it backwards(on the web). The bikes still had Riot had on them though lol.
Very true. They tossed the idea around for aluminum chainstay like GG
That's 10 more than the Canfield Bikes
Chris Canfield posted that they were never in trouble with carbon. And that the company is in the middle of changes and development. One of those changes is that he is stepping away from the company.
unno bikes
They're only sold in trump tower and the Saudi temple. Appointment only. Our poverty eyes don't deserve to feast on that kind of exclusivity.
Trump Bikes™
They still have a DH race team so that normally means that they are still going
How does a Spanish company work?
Repsol pay for everyone?
14% unemployment and I can't think of anything anyone buys from that country.
Repsol pay for everyone?
14% unemployment and I can't think of anything anyone buys from that country.
siesta time
Ham, delicious ham, and Rioja.
Unno is definitely a money laundering scheme though, right?
$65. A pound, no thank you.
I thought Spain was essentially a vacation home for the Brits.
Fruit lots of fruit, mainly shipped in to Northern Europe
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Might be confusing Spain with Mexico there...
Spain had Francisco Franco, one the worst far right, fascist dictators and one of the longest in power.
Thanks so much for that free lesson!!!Thread title + Stranglers song lyrics.
I think he's lined up to catch a Giants game.
Have seen quite a few Spanish products in Cuba. Primarily foodstuffs, personal hygiene, linens, cookware, cutlery and building supplies. Granted my exposure comes from vacations and interactions with old Cuban friends who we visit that live in Holguin, so admittedly a small sample size.
this is not what happened to, but more of, surprised still in business
salsa bikes
whoooooooooooooo buys them?
and why?
salsa bikes
whoooooooooooooo buys them?
and why?
That's a great question. We have a bunch of customers with them, but as to the "why," well that seems somewhat inexplicable.
Do they even still make "mountain" bikes? I've thought of them as mostly doing gravel/touring bikes of late, and they seem perfectly good if you want something in that vein.
Interestingly, they do! I guess they're licensing split pivot from DW, and they're throwing out some Chinese made carbon bikes with split pivot on them. We had a customer just sell his Top Fuel 9.8 to get a salsa that was virtually identical, but slightly heavier with slightly worse components for slightly more money. We're still not sure why.