[kidwoo]

Originally posted by MMike
No I think you TRULY want to be Luc's wife. You are obsessed with him.

I'd be willing you wager you are abducting people and are making a "Luc suit" out of their skin.

"It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again"...

Come on mike, haven't you realized by now that "pink socks" is just an analogy for the strong desire Orven has to be domninated by one of the "pinkbike" contributors? Pink is how orven feels when he thinks of Luc........socks....well socks are a metaphor for how orven wants to secretly be worn by luc's foot as it hits the anus de orven at a high velocity.

All this passive agressive sh!t is just a poorly veiled proclamation of orven's wish to simply be loved and dominated by the one person in life he most admires.

Of course. Luc is an adult. Orven on the other hand........well some people need to just grow out of things before they're over.

 

[Orvan]

Originally posted by ssaddict
Yes, there is a big gap, but I'm saying don't talk **** when you've never even seen her on a race course.

You ever noticed that most racing critics are none racers...
Yet they somehow CAN relate to the rigors of full season of racing.

 

[Orvan]

Originally posted by MMike
I'd be willing you wager you are abducting people

I'm cloning lil Spoomers...

 

[MMike]

Originally posted by kidwoo
Come on mike, haven't you realized by now that "pink socks" is just an analogy for the strong desire Orven has to be domninated by one of the "pinkbike" contributors? Pink is how orven feels when he thinks of Luc........socks....well socks are a metaphor for how orven wants to secretly be worn by luc's foot as it hits the anus de orven at a high velocity.

All this passive agressive sh!t is just a poorly veiled proclamation of orven's wish to simply be loved and dominated by the one person in life he most admires.

Of course. Luc is an adult. Orven on the other hand........well some people need to just grow out of things before they're over.

Makes you want to rush out and buy a Nicolai don't it?

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by MMike
Makes you want to rush out and buy a Nicolai don't it?

Will it fit a 3.0?

 

[MMike]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
Will it fit a 3.0?

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAA....

 

[Orvan]

Originally posted by kidwoo
well socks are a metaphor for how orven wants to secretly be worn by luc's foot as it hits the anus de orven at a high velocity.

does this mean we have to change our 'team socks?'

 

[thaflyinfatman]

Originally posted by dhtahoe
Now 3 years later I believe that I can be the top U.S. pro, and nothing anyone says will keep me from doing it. It just drives me more!!!

What if 40 other people say the same thing? Obviously at least some of you are living with false beliefs... please, PLEASE stone us to death for being realistic.

 

[thaflyinfatman]

Originally posted by Orven
You ever noticed that most racing critics are none racers...
Yet they somehow CAN relate to the rigors of full season of racing.

Example...

 

[Fulton]

Originally posted by ViolentVolante
yeah, wtf? according to some show on FOX some japanese guy beat us in competition eating, lame.

you didn't see that!! oh man, the guy is like 120 pounds, and is the world hotdog eating champion for like 5 years straight or something like that. He out ate (?) all these huge guys that were like 400 pounds+

crazy.........

 

[binary visions]

Originally posted by thaflyinfatman
What if 40 other people say the same thing? Obviously at least some of you are living with false beliefs... please, PLEASE stone us to death for being realistic.

There's a difference between realism and simply sh!tting on someone's goals.

Not a single one of those 40 people should hear "You can't do it." I'm not so unrealistic as to think they won't hear it, but the fact is that as riders we should all be supportive of the community.

It takes a pretty pathetic person to not be able to not be able to refrain from shooting down someone's hopes.

Brian HCM#1, for instance, always encourages people's Hopes...

 

[thaflyinfatman]

Originally posted by binary visions
There's a difference between realism and simply sh!tting on someone's goals.

Not a single one of those 40 people should hear "You can't do it." I'm not so unrealistic as to think they won't hear it, but the fact is that as riders we should all be supportive of the community.

It takes a pretty pathetic person to not be able to not be able to refrain from shooting down someone's hopes.

Brian HCM#1, for instance, always encourages people's Hopes...

So I should outright lie to nearly every rider I know (if the question arises) just to be supportive? There's one champion each year (for each discipline in each series). Most people are somewhat competitive for 10-15 years. That's 10-15 shots you've got at it.

I know I'm not going to make it to pro (well I might make it THERE, but I won't be winning anything!), despite really wanting to and being pretty motivated to try my best... and I'm fully aware of that. If somebody says so, OH NO NOT REALITY! It's not the end of the earth dude.

 

[binary visions]

Originally posted by thaflyinfatman
So I should outright lie to nearly every rider I know (if the question arises) just to be supportive? There's one champion each year (for each discipline in each series). Most people are somewhat competitive for 10-15 years. That's 10-15 shots you've got at it.

I know I'm not going to make it to pro (well I might make it THERE, but I won't be winning anything!), despite really wanting to and being pretty motivated to try my best... and I'm fully aware of that. If somebody says so, OH NO NOT REALITY! It's not the end of the earth dude.

No, you don't need to lie. Just tell 'em to go for it, do their best. No need to dump on them saying "Hah! You'll never make it, idiot".

It's not the end of the earth, at all, and I'm not one of these warm fuzzy people who believes everyone should be given a little gold star for competing. But there is absolutely zero reason to go telling them explicitly that they WILL NOT WIN. That's just lame and belittling. Does it make you feel better? Does it make them feel better? Does it accomplish anything but killing their mental readiness for the race? No. So pipe down and let them try to win.

 

[ssaddict]

Originally posted by Jm_
Well, like I said, I've ridden with her on several occasions, I guess she was riding at a non-race pace...as was everybody. It gets kind of rediculous. I don't dream of 4x explosive power.

Yeah, it is kind of ridiculous for you to talk crap about someone's riding style and skills you know nothing about. Bottom line is you've never seen her race and hardly seen how she rides (over a year ago, lol) . Yet your ripping on her skills, that's wrong dude, knock it off.

 

[Stiff]

Originally posted by Orven
Hey I was once told by a kickass Dher from Cal State SLO way back in my Collegiate racing years that "asians don't have room in downhilling....another clueless asian." - I told him I'm actually half Spanish.

You're a Latino Asian? I thought you were a blindfolded white girl.

 

[Stiff]

Originally posted by Jeremy R

I like racers on a individual basis anyway. Like Peaty and Hannah and Minaar. I could care less what country they are from.

Right on! People too, not just racers.

 

[Damn True]

Mike,
I feel like you may have been refering to some of my comments in Stik's thread.

Let me clarify.
IMO, the ability gap between the #1 pro man and the #36 or #64 for that matter pro man is much narrower than the gap between the #1 and #32 woman. That, in the long run is not good for the sport.

What pushes people most to improve? Competition. That said, pitting a little league team against the NY Yankees will not help the game of the kids. Pitting them against teams of similar, or slightly higher ability, however will.

The analogy holds true in cycling as well. I think that many pro women would be better served to stay in Ex longer and compete against women of similar skill levels. In the long run, the close competition will push their abilities further and faster than skipping through to the pro ranks and languishing in the 25th percentile.

Relatively new race car drivers don't jump into F1 and develop there. They start in lower level series and build their driving and competitive skills.

The worst thing cycling can do at this point is to lower the bar to bring the courses down to the level of many of the women. IMO the bar should be set as high as possible. It's up to the women just as it is for the men to make the commitment to making the grade. Look at Alpine skiing. The Hakkenham (sp?) is the most difficult DH course in the sport. Women and men race the same course. Granted, the women aren't as fast as Tommy Moe, but they ski the same course.

As for you and your drive to succeed in this sport. Dude, I am 100% behind you. As stoked as I am for some of my young friends who are rising in the ranks (Curtis v1 and v2, Matt V, Juano, Beavis) I am even more stoked that a guy who is close to my age is able to get there too.

 

[Threepointtwo]

What are you guys talking about? Here's Faith and she rips!

 

[Freak]

Originally posted by Damn True
The analogy holds true in cycling as well. I think that many pro women would be better served to stay in Ex longer and compete against women of similar skill levels. In the long run, the close competition will push their abilities further and faster than skipping through to the pro ranks and languishing in the 25th percentile.

The problem with that statement is that there are not enough females in the amateur ranks to give them that competition that you're referring to.

 

[Damn True]

On a local level, probably not. But at a national there are far more.

 

[Repack]

Originally posted by thaflyinfatman
What if 40 other people say the same thing? Obviously at least some of you are living with false beliefs... please, PLEASE stone us to death for being realistic.

Now that is the kind iof thinking that really bugs me. If nobody ever said, "I can", no one ever would.

 

[Freak]

Originally posted by Damn True
On a local level, probably not. But at a national there are far more.

At a national level, yes, but there are a lot of people that don't go to Nationals.

The fact of the matter is that there aren't enough females involved in the racing side of the sport. The question is: How do you get more of the females involved in racing?

 

[jimmydean]

Originally posted by thaflyinfatman
So I should outright lie to nearly every rider I know (if the question arises) just to be supportive?

Who the hell do you think you are, Simmon from American Idol? How can you decide who has a shot at making it?

Maybe you need to hang out with better riders so you don't feel like everyone around you is a looser...

 

[Damn True]

Originally posted by thaflyinfatman
So I should outright lie to nearly every rider I know (if the question arises) just to be supportive? There's one champion each year (for each discipline in each series). Most people are somewhat competitive for 10-15 years. That's 10-15 shots you've got at it.

I know I'm not going to make it to pro (well I might make it THERE, but I won't be winning anything!), despite really wanting to and being pretty motivated to try my best... and I'm fully aware of that. If somebody says so, OH NO NOT REALITY! It's not the end of the earth dude.

Wow, I'm sure glad I ride with people who encourage and support their friends rather than people like you. I'd have given up the sport years ago.

I have ZERO aspirations of being a pro. I would like to move to Ex and at some point go to Master's Worlds. I think I can do it someday. So do my friends.

 

[-BB-]

Originally posted by Orven
Hey I was once told by a kickass Dher from Cal State SLO way back in my Collegiate racing years that "asians don't have room in downhilling....

Yeah... you are all too fat.

 

[Jeremy R]

Originally posted by jimmydean
Who the hell do you think you are, Simmon from American Idol? How can you decide who has a shot at making it?

Maybe you need to hang out with better riders so you don't feel like everyone around you is a looser...

Ha! Simon
"That run what absolutely dreadful."
"You should keep your day job."
"Your skills are horrendous"
"You should do the world a favor and never ride again"

 

[Kornphlake]

or:
"I've never seen a bike mistreated that way"
"Have you ever ridden with your training wheels off?"
"You ride pretty good but you could loose a little weight"
"Your jersey resembles what Ryan Secrest would wear"

 

[Damn True]

"I have no fo-mal twaining."
~William Hung, Cal Eng. student, Mt. Biker

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by Damn True
Wow, I'm sure glad I ride with people who encourage and support their friends rather than people like you. I'd have given up the sport years ago.

Like for instance.................You're FAT keep pedaling

 

[Damn True]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
Like for instance.................You're FAT keep pedaling

Yup, just like that.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by Damn True
Yup, just like that.

 

[dhtahoe]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1

"Pedal ya son of a bitch" My girlfriend Tova at Sea Otter

 

[Damn True]

Originally posted by dhtahoe
"Pedal ya son of a bitch" My girlfriend Tova at Sea Otter

LOL!
BTW. Very cool chick Mikey!
Well done.

 

[Cooter Brown]

I think her fine ass married some dickwad country music singer

 

[thaflyinfatman]

Originally posted by binary visions
No, you don't need to lie. Just tell 'em to go for it, do their best. No need to dump on them saying "Hah! You'll never make it, idiot".

It's not the end of the earth, at all, and I'm not one of these warm fuzzy people who believes everyone should be given a little gold star for competing. But there is absolutely zero reason to go telling them explicitly that they WILL NOT WIN. That's just lame and belittling. Does it make you feel better? Does it make them feel better? Does it accomplish anything but killing their mental readiness for the race? No. So pipe down and let them try to win.

I don't belittle anyone. If I don't think they have any chance I just wish them good luck... if they ask whether I think they can win, I'll tell them what I think. It's not like I go around saying "you might win, you might too, but you, you, you and you have got no hope".

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by dhtahoe
"Pedal ya son of a bitch" My girlfriend Tova at Sea Otter

Cool, and True is real FAT so he needs to pedal even more

 

[thaflyinfatman]

Originally posted by jimmydean
Who the hell do you think you are, Simmon from American Idol? How can you decide who has a shot at making it?

Maybe you need to hang out with better riders so you don't feel like everyone around you is a looser...

Nearly everyone I ride with is better than me, so that's hardly the case.

And can you not at least guess from watching someone ride (and looking at their other results) whether they even have a VAGUE chance of "making it"? Seriously. There's plenty of people who might potentially get there, but there's way more who won't. If somebody's been racing Sport for 3 years, are they really going to step it up the next year and win Pro? Probably not. Like I said, it's not like I go around telling people whether they're going to win or not.

 

[thaflyinfatman]

Originally posted by Damn True
Wow, I'm sure glad I ride with people who encourage and support their friends rather than people like you. I'd have given up the sport years ago.

I have ZERO aspirations of being a pro. I would like to move to Ex and at some point go to Master's Worlds. I think I can do it someday. So do my friends.

Point out exactly where I said I didn't encourage or support riders? There's a difference between saying "go for your life, you can do pretty well if ya have a good run" and saying "you've got a great chance of winning, and I like your chances of becoming world champ!" to somebody who is consistently mid/rear pack of Sport but aspires to be a WC racer.

 

[DH Diva]

"IMO, the ability gap between the #1 pro man and the #36 or #64 for that matter pro man is much narrower than the gap between the #1 and #32 woman. That, in the long run is not good for the sport. "

I guess the one thing here that I want to point out is that you have to consider the ratio of men to women. There are usually between 30-35 pro women at each national. In the mens field there are more like 100-120 who run qualifiers and they take 62 (I think, correct me if I'm wrong). So, if you look at the ratio of men to women, the gap between the 1st place woman and the 32nd place women, is more comparable to the gap between the 1st place man and the 110th place man. Just something to keep in mind when looking at the time gaps.