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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by blurryfast, Aug 29, 2005.

  1. blurryfast

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    At my friends shop, a group of kids hang out all the time almost everyday. They ask advice about everything, but then go off and buy things from mailorder shops. I don't think that is right :stosh: . THey waste the employees time and don't even really support or help out the shop. Have you ever seen this kind of thing.
     

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    its what young kids do. teach 'em some respect... with your fist!
     
  3. ohio

    ohio The Fresno Kid

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    Sure. Kids don't have much money. That's what they do. Give them time though... treat them right, even though they don't do the same in return... eventually they'll learn to appreciate their LBS. Then when they finally have jobs or need help wrenching their bikes, they'll happily pay for the luxury of having a good LBS.

    Also, don't feel bad about explaining to them that you realize they don't have much money and are going to mail-order the parts, so when a paying customer comes into the shop they go to the bottom of the priority least. Don't say it in a mean way, just make it clear that it's the way it has to be for you guys to stay in business. You'll help them out when you can to be nice and keep them in the sport, but they're at the bottom of the food chain while they still order everything online.
     
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    But they're parents buy them most everything, if not everything. One of them has a bighit fsr and another one has a stinky with a 888.
     
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    Do you have the equipment in stock at decent prices? If that is the case, then f them. Otherwise, what can I say...
     
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    Its not my shop, I just think they could be nicer to the people who work there.
     
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    ohio The Fresno Kid

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    Right, but eventually they'll buy their own stuff or be in a position where they need an LBS.

    However, if they are rude to employees, etc, kick them out. There's no room for that and it scares off paying customers.

    Does the shop do group rides or similar events? Do they make an effort to get to know the kids? Nothing sells like guilt...
     
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    That's something that can bother me. When i work construction all summer just to get a frame and these kids parents will buy them a complete bike "just becasue"
     
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    what you do is get the shop to ask them if they want sponsorships and give them crappy jerseys that say the shops name on them. Then they will feel compelled to buy from the shop because they are "sponsored" by it. Kids get a kick out of that sort of stuff...like me
     
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    Maybe that will teach em.
     
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    Sell to them at the prices of your competition...or less and make em run a sticker on the frame of your shop.
     
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    I used to be a grom kid that hung around a lbs and bought stuff off the internet, but that was simply because all the shops around had terrible prices, but after a while i grew on the shop and eventually got a job there for a little while and stopped buying everything online. just give 'em time and if that doesnt work, then i'd just go with dirtjumpP.1's advice. :nuts:
     
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    Well, it's just one of those things. Here's a perfect example. The LBS sells a TLD D2 for like $299, and Beyond Bikes sells the same helmet for $199. What are you going to do? Well, most people I know will go to the LBS try on one for size, and order it from Beyond Bikes.

    It's human nature, and there really isn't anything wrong with being a smart consumer, you wouldn't over pay for a bike, car, or house...
     
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    On school vacations a group of groms hangs out my LBS, and tighten their bikes all day, but they have to be watched constantly so they don't walk off with tools or parts, and when several real customers (adults) show up, the groms get booted.

    There are worse things they could be doing.
     
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    why are they/me called gromes???
     
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    dunno, but there was a vid a few years ago called "the grommets"...

    if these kids do prove to be a bunch of punk asses you could just give them a bunch of bad advice, tell them wrong measurements and such. then when they have the headache of mailorder returns, they might appreciate their local shop a bit more.

    i like ohio's idea better though.
     
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    It's Grom not Grome.

    Grommets are just what you're called by the older crew. Mostly it has to do with the fact that they're hyper, loud, young and obnoxious. Calling them groms is a way of letting them know there place and it's fun. I was actually kinda bummed when I realized i was no longer a grom, but then it dawned on me that I can now call them groms and kick there arses. Good times.
     
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    You're still a grom.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Thats nothing new. As a former shop employee/slave I say its the fault of the employee for wasting his/her time on them. Its easy to tell when someone is going to spend $ vs ask a bunch of Q's so they Know what to buy online.
     
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    This is nothing new. These are budding bike junkies, they want to hang around bikes, talk about bikes, and fondle bikes. If you have the time to talk to them, you can sometimes make them understand that a shop has more overhead and offers some advantages over mail order. If they are cool, they should be willing to pay a little more than mail order, especially if you can lower your price a little bit - that way each side meets half-way, and you keep a customer who might then drop cash on other stuff. Some kids are just not worth it, but with others you can sometimes tap the parental checkbook if they see you making an effort to bridge the price gap and give their kids a place to indulge.
     
  21. blurryfast

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    They seem to be good kids, but I just find it lazy that they hangout and ask for free advice, but won't help out with even little things at that shop. I don't mean to be rude to them, I just think they could help out after they have been helped out. If it is not even their own money and don't really apreciate the value of their parents money anyway, they might as well not act so cheap. I think these kids are into tricking out their bikes much more than how they ride them.