Bob the Builder
- Aug 24, 2004
Let's be honest. The application phase ain't your issueSung to the CVB tune, "When I win The Lottery"
Do the kids get to drink small batch IPAs when they build wheels?You could probably get a small factory complete with child slaves for less than that thing.
It would be good for the kids too, coz each time they build a wheel they'll get that Zen feeling that rich white people get when they read a 6000 word essay on wheel building and proceed to build their first wheel.
I remember the first time we hit the brewery for lunch before building wheels at the LBS. Makes it much more challenging.Do the kids get to drink small batch IPAs when they build wheels?
Just like a car built by the UAW on a FridayOh, god, I used to build wheels in a near blackout state at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning. Yes, the occasional wrong lacing, but they were still strong and true as fuck.
good enough for a rocky mtn at leastYes, the occasional wrong lacing, but they were still strong and true as fuck.
I know you and westy think everyone here lives 30 years ago but not only have the bikes obviously been designed for a very long time by people who obviously don't know what they're doing in terms of suspension kinematics and sound structural design, my biggest gripe was they tried to sue transition over patent infringement over a linkage driven single pivot....and not that long ago.Still not totally sure why? Ancient history?
The real skill was waking up before the shop opened and fixing the glaring mistakes you made at 3AM.Oh, god, I used to build wheels in a near blackout state at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning. Yes, the occasional wrong lacing, but they were still strong and true as fuck.
Best fork you can get on that thing is a Judy, guess you can't shred it at an XPA level?Yep. Took me 5 seconds to find a reason to hate them in 2023
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Bros can't be bro-ing without some IPA (the totally rare and unique drink for bros) bro!
Wonder if CushCore would reduce it more? It would have to shrink a fair bit with 28Psi in the tire.I notice a huge decrease in tension on a modern wheel when you mount a tire and air it up. Enough that it wouldn't be safe to ride, but it's theoretically "at tension" with the tire off...
IDK, but ever since I noticed this, on my first carbon build, I see final truing on the bike (also to dish to align with the frame) with a tire installed as critical. I've built metal wheels since too. After doing that though, the wheel is solid and I seemingly never have to come back to it.Wonder if CushCore would reduce it more? It would have to shrink a fair bit with 28Psi in the tire.
I'm not looking for something to blame, I'd just like to know how much the stuff shrinks.
what's the rim diameter and flange spacing on the front hub? you could probably get away with running all 292 on the front. but since you're already buying 291s for the rear..... meh?I'm doing my second (and third and fourth) ever wheel builds for a new bike. Swapping over an Onyx hub from my previous bike and going to get a DT 350 front hub to go with some new FR 541 rims. Between the DT Swiss and Onyx sites, I get the following for spoke lengths:
Left spoke length: 291.7
Right spoke length: 292.5
Drive Side: 291
Non Drive Side: 293
Most of the guidance that I've seen is to round down when between sizes, but I'm wondering if the front spokes can all be 292mm? Also, any recommendations on specific spokes and sources within the US?
ERD=603mmwhat's the rim diameter and flange spacing on the front hub? you could probably get away with running all 292 on the front. but since you're already buying 291s for the rear..... meh?
i usually buy my spokes from https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/ when i'm doing a full build. and i typically get 2 or 3 extras per length (sometimes more if it will get me to a price break on a full box qty), just in case. that way i'll have them on hand if/when one needs replaced.
if it were me and i was ordering spokes for a new build, i'd round down.ERD=603mm
Flange Distance Left=28.2mm
Flange Distance Right=35.5mm
At least, that's what the DT Swiss site gives. 291 makes sense. Wasn't sure if it was better to round up by 0.3mm or round down by 0.7mm.