First off - sorry for the "he" references.Arsbars said:
Now I understand where you are coming from... thanks for taking the time to explain things for me. I'll definitely be going to a compact double as soon as my budget allows.
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Now I understand where you are coming from... thanks for taking the time to explain things for me. I'll definitely be going to a compact double as soon as my budget allows.
No worries - sorry about seeming like a haterjacksonpt said:
I have 3 cassettes that I use for my road bike - 11/21, 11/23 & 12/26. Right now I am not in real good shape so the 12/26 hasn't been changed for a year.rooftest said:
I used to think a tight triple set-up would be nice but then L'oopie got a triple and, well... you know.
EDIT: 11/21, 12/23, 13/26... I read the boxes.
I'm not. I am riding a 1991 Serotta with 2002 Chorus, the mix of Dura Ace / 600 was pretty much shot but the frame still fit me like a dream - I would have to spend upwards of $2,000.00 to replace my steel frame and fork. I'm happy that I do not need to.rooftest said:
The latest and greatest road frame technology usually involves cheaper manufacturing processes or such slight improvement that only the very elite could ever hope to gain any advantage. Now when it comes to mechanicals the advances over the span of 25 years are enourmous. The money L'oopie is saving buy not buying the hype will serve him much better when invested in a custom made steel frame that is likely to be the last frame he'll ever need.
Ebay is littered with "top end" mass produced made in China frames that have been stripped of their running gear - they sell for a fraction of their supposed MSRP because they are crap - the only thing that sets them apart is their wild decals and marketing campagne. The biggest advance in frame technologly in my lifetime is carbon fiber - carbon fiber is cheap and adaptable and, in many applications, easier to work with than steel. In fact it is now cheaper to manufacture a carbon fiber fork than it is to have one made of steel. It is also becoming cheaper to manufacture a carbon fiber frame than it is to make a lugged steel frame.
L'oopie is wise to invest his hard earned $$$ in the one component few cyclists ever think about. Most bicyle buyers are sold on hype and logos. L'oopie is smarter than that - I think because he's a Jew.
Nooo.... he's just old!Serial Midget said:L'oopie is wise to invest his hard earned $$$ in the one component few cyclists ever think about. Most bicyle buyers are sold on hype and logos. L'oopie is smarter than that - I think because he's a Jew.
I think Chorus is a step above Ultegra, close to par w/ Dura-Ace. I'd go Campy, except I can't afford it.rooftest said:
I could afford it since I didn't have to get a new frame...rooftest said:
thanks bro!Serial Midget said:
I don't like the ergo of Campyrooftest said:
Before spending money, it's good to know ones needs and desires. I'm extremely lucky to know what I want, in cycling and life (just got engaged!)
I know that long hours of comfort on my bike (proper materials and fit) far outweighs component choices. SM really helped make that point over the past two years.
Would you agree that it's better to buy a better fitting frame and 105 components than a frame that doesn't fit as well with Chorus or DA?
I would. I'm just giving you heat for putting low-rent components on a $1,500 frame. I'm comparing it to putting some VW beetle wheels on a Porsche.LordOpie said:
If it were me dumping that money on a frame, I'd want to make it shift clean too. Just my opinion, but I'm quick to share it!