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jonKranked

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I would love to know what drugs he's doing in order to relate living in condos to a dying American dream. :rofl:


and the comment about the '57 Chevy was great. Way to live in the past there guy.
 

sanjuro

Tube Smuggler
Sep 13, 2004
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Hey Bob, weren't you on public assistance in the beginning part of your career?

Say bye-bye to your rockstar life when you have to go work at 18.
 

jonKranked

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so now, based on kid rocks nightmare, what do you think his dream is? Waking up to everyone driving an f150 with a 8" lift on 33's, living in a trailer park, and having polio?
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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so now, based on kid rocks nightmare, what do you think his dream is? Waking up to everyone driving an f150 with a 8" lift on 33's, living in a trailer park, and having polio?
I'm sure his dream is that everyone is in a trailer park except him.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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There is a difference between everyone having healthcare, and everyone having healthcare but not paying for it. Something like 30% of the US population actually pays income tax. As part of that 30% paying for everyone else, I am of the belief that they can f* and die. If you want something, you pay for it. If you can't afford it, find a way to pay for it. Your problems aren't mine, and I don't bust my ass so that you can not have a job, or milk off me because you can't get a job that pays enough.

Can we go back to direct payment for doctors please? Write you check for services, costs are disclosed up front, and if you can't pay, best of luck.

Medicine is an industry, not a charity.
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
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health care is so un-american.
My wife's theory (and I partly agree with her) is that the reason the right is so vehemently anti-affordable-healthcare is that it is the one thing that is keeping workers tied to their jobs. We've talked about various small businesses that we could start, but it always comes down to the fact that one of us would have to stay employed primarily for the benefits. Replacing a salary is one thing, replacing $1000/month health care is something totally and completely different. Just imagine if that was provided free and clear by the government, there'd be a whole host of small entrepreneurs quitting their jobs and starting to go to work for themselves. It would be a boost to "small businesses" like there's never been before, and that scares the SH!T out of the large businesses in this country.
 

jonKranked

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My wife's theory (and I partly agree with her) is that the reason the right is so vehemently anti-affordable-healthcare is that it is the one thing that is keeping workers tied to their jobs. We've talked about various small businesses that we could start, but it always comes down to the fact that one of us would have to stay employed primarily for the benefits. Replacing a salary is one thing, replacing $1000/month health care is something totally and completely different. Just imagine if that was provided free and clear by the government, there'd be a whole host of small entrepreneurs quitting their jobs and starting to go to work for themselves. It would be a boost to "small businesses" like there's never been before, and that scares the SH!T out of the large businesses in this country.
one of the major, and not publicly discussed issues (edit: until this week), is that health insurance providers are exempt from anti-trust laws.
 
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dante

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There is a difference between everyone having healthcare, and everyone having healthcare but not paying for it. Something like 30% of the US population actually pays income tax. As part of that 30% paying for everyone else, I am of the belief that they can f* and die. If you want something, you pay for it. If you can't afford it, find a way to pay for it. Your problems aren't mine, and I don't bust my ass so that you can not have a job, or milk off me because you can't get a job that pays enough.

Can we go back to direct payment for doctors please? Write you check for services, costs are disclosed up front, and if you can't pay, best of luck.

Medicine is an industry, not a charity.
96% of all statistics are made up on the spot...

43% of Americans pay zero or negative income taxes.

Granted some of that is for the homebuyer credit, some of that is due to the recession, but I still think we need to tax EVERYONE more. Rich, poor, you name it. There's a dipsh!t millionaire running for Feingold's Senate seat who hasn't paid state income taxes in 8 out of the last 10 years. My guess is that his federal taxes look similar, but he hasn't released those. So start closing those loopholes, and BRING IN MORE TAX REVENUE.
 
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laura

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Jul 16, 2002
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My wife's theory (and I partly agree with her) is that the reason the right is so vehemently anti-affordable-healthcare is that it is the one thing that is keeping workers tied to their jobs. We've talked about various small businesses that we could start, but it always comes down to the fact that one of us would have to stay employed primarily for the benefits. Replacing a salary is one thing, replacing $1000/month health care is something totally and completely different. Just imagine if that was provided free and clear by the government, there'd be a whole host of small entrepreneurs quitting their jobs and starting to go to work for themselves. It would be a boost to "small businesses" like there's never been before, and that scares the SH!T out of the large businesses in this country.
It's the ONLY reason that TN stayed at his last 2 jobs. Since he got laid off, COBRA is relatively affordable (for 15 months) so we are OK for now on the healthcare tip. TN has a chronic illness so we will never be able to have affordable health insurance if we are not on some kind of group plan. We have several ideas for businesses that we want to start but it is just not something that we foresee being able to afford any time soon.
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
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It's the ONLY reason that TN stayed at his last 2 jobs. Since he got laid off, COBRA is relatively affordable (for 15 months) so we are OK for now on the healthcare tip. TN has a chronic illness so we will never be able to have affordable health insurance if we are not on some kind of group plan. We have several ideas for businesses that we want to start but it is just not something that we foresee being able to afford any time soon.
So tell him to fvck off and die.

So proclaims the white sunglass wearing douchebag above. So shall it be...
 

laura

DH_Laura
Jul 16, 2002
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So tell him to fvck off and die.

He kind of gets that every time we have to re-submit paperwork to "prove" that the medical treatments he is recieving are legit and still needed.

"You caught us CoreSource, his chronic illness has magically been cured. A mother ****ing miracle. He doesn't really need to spend 4-6 hours in a hospital every two months getting infusions, we just enjoy the ambiance so we keep on going."
 

jonKranked

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He kind of gets that every time we have to re-submit paperwork to "prove" that the medical treatments he is recieving are legit and still needed.

"You caught us CoreSource, his chronic illness has magically been cured. A mother ****ing miracle. He doesn't really need to spend 4-6 hours in a hospital every two months getting infusions, we just enjoy the ambiance so we keep on going."
"That's funny, I don't remember there being a checkbox for 'Jesus' when I picked out my health insurance."
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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There is a difference between everyone having healthcare, and everyone having healthcare but not paying for it.
I've said this before, but I swear to god the financial industry holds a monthly conference call to decide what asinine elitist political position they're going to take this month. I'm fresh back from NYC and at a dinner with 5 hedge fund friends, 4 of them proclaimed this exact same position. Almost word for word. Is Tyler Durden pumping info straight to an embedded chip in your brains?

No wonder the financial markets are so ****ed. Everyone working in them is so impressed with their own success that they fail to understand how narrow, myopic, and limited their own point of view is AND are perfectly happy to act as an echo chamber for financial-incentive-based cure-alls. It truly typifies the saying that if you're a hammer, every problem is a nail.
 

dante

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Feb 13, 2004
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He kind of gets that every time we have to re-submit paperwork to "prove" that the medical treatments he is recieving are legit and still needed.

"You caught us CoreSource, his chronic illness has magically been cured. A mother ****ing miracle. He doesn't really need to spend 4-6 hours in a hospital every two months getting infusions, we just enjoy the ambiance so we keep on going."
I thought I may have broken my arm this past summer (damn wet wood...), and so went to an urgent care clinic for x-rays. Received a letter from the insurance companies demanding proof of insurance for the past 5 years to determine whether it would fall under "prior condition". WTF??!? Yes, I broke my arm 4.5 years ago and just decided to go get it x-rayed today for sh!ts and giggles. :rant:
 

dante

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I've said this before, but I swear to god the financial industry holds a monthly conference call to decide what asinine elitist political position they're going to take this month. I'm fresh back from NYC and at a dinner with 5 hedge fund friends, 4 of them proclaimed this exact same position. Almost word for word. Is Tyler Durden pumping info straight to an embedded chip in your brains?
Guess what, I pay for the little neighborhood ingrates' schooling every year, $3000+ down the f'ing drain since I don't have kids. I also pay for the local fire, police and ambulatory services, and I haven't had to use them once. I don't care if each individual family couldn't afford to pay for their own kid's education K-12, they shouldn't have procreated if that's the case. I also can't believe that we pay for a military that can't defend us from the Mexican invasion and probably couldn't from a Canadian one. And that new bridge on the other side of town, MY TAX DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR THAT, and I don't have to use it. I mean, WTF! I would totally support paying for it if it was something that *I* used every day, maybe even if it backed up to my house so I wouldn't have to drive through the neighborhood with all the poor kids who look a me funny. But it's not, it's on the totally other side of town, if those people want it, THEY should pay for it themselves. Those 10,000 people who'll use it each day should each pony up the $20,000 needed out of their own pockets, and stop reaching into mine! And just the other day I saw a road crew out repairing a road THAT I DON'T EVEN USE!! What the sh!t? Goddamn, this country is going straight to Communism and not even bothering to stop at Socialism on it's way down. Next thing you know they're going to be REACHING INTO MY GODDAMN POCKET AGAIN to pay for some research on genetic diseases that I don't have and never will. I mean, spending on something generic like cancer is bad enough, since I might get through life without ever having it, but Sickle Cell Anemia?? I'm clear of that, make those genetic defects pay for that themselves.

:rant:
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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My wife's theory (and I partly agree with her) is that the reason the right is so vehemently anti-affordable-healthcare is that it is the one thing that is keeping workers tied to their jobs. We've talked about various small businesses that we could start, but it always comes down to the fact that one of us would have to stay employed primarily for the benefits. Replacing a salary is one thing, replacing $1000/month health care is something totally and completely different. Just imagine if that was provided free and clear by the government, there'd be a whole host of small entrepreneurs quitting their jobs and starting to go to work for themselves. It would be a boost to "small businesses" like there's never been before, and that scares the SH!T out of the large businesses in this country.
Yep.

I'm currently unemployed but saved a good nest egg so I can ride for a year or two without touching my retirement. The only reason I'm not sitting on a beach in south america is that once my cobra runs out I must have a job with insurance. I have a pre-existing condition that only costs a thousand or so a year right now, but in the future could cost $20G a year. With the current rules if I go a single day un-covered no insurance company has to or will cover my condition. Paying for my own coverage would cost me thousands a month because of the .0001% chance I might need expensive drugs.

I could probably make a good living doing consulting or starting my own business but it would never be feasible because of healthcare. I will always be a corporate slave.

The irony is I take really good care of myself and am healthier than 99.9999% of the population.
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
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Orange County, CA
I've said this before, but I swear to god the financial industry holds a monthly conference call to decide what asinine elitist political position they're going to take this month. I'm fresh back from NYC and at a dinner with 5 hedge fund friends, 4 of them proclaimed this exact same position. Almost word for word. Is Tyler Durden pumping info straight to an embedded chip in your brains?

No wonder the financial markets are so ****ed. Everyone working in them is so impressed with their own success that they fail to understand how narrow, myopic, and limited their own point of view is AND are perfectly happy to act as an echo chamber for financial-incentive-based cure-alls. It truly typifies the saying that if you're a hammer, every problem is a nail.
I just want the Joker to get shot in the face by a poor person who steals his wallet and then heads over to a clinic to get an STD looked at.

If he manages to die on a spot of dirt and fertilize a dandelion, he'll do more for the world than he currently does now or has done in the past.
 

kidwoo

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Guess what, I pay for the little neighborhood ingrates' schooling every year, $3000+ down the f'ing drain since I don't have kids. I also pay for the local fire, police and ambulatory services, and I haven't had to use them once. I don't care if each individual family couldn't afford to pay for their own kid's education K-12, they shouldn't have procreated if that's the case. I also can't believe that we pay for a military that can't defend us from the Mexican invasion and probably couldn't from a Canadian one. And that new bridge on the other side of town, MY TAX DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR THAT, and I don't have to use it. I mean, WTF! I would totally support paying for it if it was something that *I* used every day, maybe even if it backed up to my house so I wouldn't have to drive through the neighborhood with all the poor kids who look a me funny. But it's not, it's on the totally other side of town, if those people want it, THEY should pay for it themselves. Those 10,000 people who'll use it each day should each pony up the $20,000 needed out of their own pockets, and stop reaching into mine! And just the other day I saw a road crew out repairing a road THAT I DON'T EVEN USE!! What the sh!t? Goddamn, this country is going straight to Communism and not even bothering to stop at Socialism on it's way down. Next thing you know they're going to be REACHING INTO MY GODDAMN POCKET AGAIN to pay for some research on genetic diseases that I don't have and never will. I mean, spending on something generic like cancer is bad enough, since I might get through life without ever having it, but Sickle Cell Anemia?? I'm clear of that, make those genetic defects pay for that themselves.

:rant:
Hey joker. You sound even dumber than this^
 

X3pilot

Texans fan - LOL
Aug 13, 2007
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I just want the Joker to get shot in the face by a poor person who steals his wallet and then heads over to a clinic to get an STD looked at.
.....

Not even fifteen minutes later
I'm still walking down the street,
When I saw a shadow of a man creep out of sight.
And then he sweeps up from behind
And puts a gun up to my head,
He made it clear he wasn't looking for a fight.

He said "Give me all you've got
I want your money not your life,
But if you try to make a move I won't think twice."
I go like "You can have my cash
But first you know I got to ask
What made you want to live this kind of life?"

He said "There ain't no rest for the wicked,
Money don't grow on trees.
I got bills to pay,
I got mouths to feed,
There ain't nothing in this world for free.
I know I can't slow down,
I can't hold back,
Though you know, I wish I could.
No there ain't no rest for the wicked,
Until we close our eyes for good".
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
6,649
26
SF, CA
I just want the Joker to get shot in the face by a poor person
I like Joker. I also like the 5 starched-shirt douches I had dinner with. I just wish they wouldn't assume that because financial incentives are the only carrot and stick they need in their lives, then it's probably best for everyone else to function in that same environment.