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Where do these "appalled" morons think their meat comes from?

N8 v2.0

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Store wants to shock chickens to death for customers

www.9news.com
written by: Carrie Mc Clure Reporter
posted by: Jeffrey Wolf Web Producer


COMMERCE CITY - Some residents are up in arms over what a new grocery store plans to do with its poultry.

California-based Liborio Markets, a Latino-based grocery store, is branching out to Colorado.

Eight stores in all are planned for the state, the first one to be called Rancho Liborio in Commerce City.

The store, scheduled to open July 30, is talking with the U.S. Department of Health and the Tri-County Health Department, seeking approval to bring in live chickens that will be killed at the store.

"We are proposing to have live poultry processed here at the store," said owner, Anthony Trujillo. "It's just live poultry that's processed in the back that has no access to the store."

Trujillo says about 150 chickens a day would be brought to the store in climate-controlled trucks, where they're then unloaded into a climate-controlled room in the back.

Every morning, the chickens are given a fatal electric shock, de-feathered, cleaned, cut, and put on the shelves. Trujillo says no live chickens remain in the back for more than five hours.

"There is no butchering or slaughtering whatsoever," said Trujillo. "It's a sophisticated state-of-the-art technology."

However, nearby residents, like Claudia Barnes, don't like the idea at all.

"We're just appalled," she said. "If they want to do this in the privacy of their home, I don't care. But we're just opening up a keg of worms if this happens."

Barnes argues that Commerce City law states no livestock is allowed to be killed in the city where zoning has not been approved for that purpose.

"If they make an exception for them, they're going to have to make an exception for everyone," she said.

She plans on creating a petition with her neighbors to fight the possibility of live chickens coming into the store.

Trujillo says his store is a new concept for Colorado residents, regardless of whether they're petition is approved or not.

"It will be a very active poultry area," he said. "Colorado is our new home."

Trujillo says three additional stores are scheduled to open later this year in Aurora, Colorado Springs, and Greeley.

Next year, he plans to open four more in Westminster, Thornton, and at two yet-to-be announced locations in Denver.
 

MudGrrl

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those morons think that meat comes in clean little plastic wrappers, just like the majority of people do.

kill the chickens in front of people.
we'll have more vegetarians.
 

N8 v2.0

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MudGrrl said:
those morons think that meat comes in clean little plastic wrappers, just like the majority of people do.

kill the chickens in front of people.
we'll have more vegetarians.
That's more meat for the rest of us then!

:D
 

MudGrrl

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see? it's a great plan!

my general rule, if you can't kill it yourself, you shouldn't be eating it.

there are too many little cutesy people out there thinking that pork chops grow on trees..........
 

N8 v2.0

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Oct 18, 2002
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MudGrrl said:
see? it's a great plan!

my general rule, if you can't kill it yourself, you shouldn't be eating it.

there are too many little cutesy people out there thinking that pork chops grow on trees..........

I have a slide show on how to butcher rabbits that I made for 4-H back in the 70's... very educational.
 

binary visions

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For some reason, all I can think of is this Simpsons quote:

Homer: Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute. Lisa honey, are you saying you're *never* going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad! Those all come from the same animal!
Homer: [chuckles] Oh, yeah, right Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.
 

laura

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maybe they aren't appalled at the act of killing, but the fact that they want to essentially attach a small slaughter house to the back of the store. Thats waste from 150 chickens a day, and dirty, nasty chicken possbily coming in contact with other areas of the store through cross contamination. I don't have an opinion one way or the other, and would rather buy chicken from those guys than tyson. But I'm just saying, the article is really vague about what people are upset about.
 

moff_quigley

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I toured a Tyson plant once. Got to see the birds processed from beginning to end. The "kill" side turned my stomach a bit. It was quite fascinating how they eviscerated the birds. Total mechanical process believe it or not. Hanging the birds by the legs on the "disassembly" line and meat removal were the only things done strictly by hand.

I still like to eat chicken. I think I'll be having some wings for dinner tomorrow night. Yummy!
 

Tenchiro

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I worked for about a month when I was younger for Fircrest Farms. :dead: I didn't have to do any of the actual killing, but from what I understand it is a very messy business.

I don't know if electrocuting them is any cleaner than simply slitting their throats and bleeding them out, but I doubt it.
 

Secret Squirrel

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Tenchiro said:
I worked for about a month when I was younger for Fircrest Farms. :dead: I didn't have to do any of the actual killing, but from what I understand it is a very messy business.

I don't know if electrocuting them is any cleaner than simply slitting their throats and bleeding them out, but I doubt it.
Sure...enough voltage and you cut the cook time in half!
 

Westy

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I was hoping N8 would weigh in a little more on this subject. It would be nice to see what unappalled morons are thinking.
 

BurlyShirley

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I actually wish MORE meat was processed this way. Direct via local farmers where possible.
 

BurlyShirley

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ioscope said:
At least it would be fresh.

WTF is up with aging meat? That's just so counter-intuitive.
A properly aged steak is actually a good thing. The right amount of cell degeneration (read ROTTING) makes it oh so tender :drool:
 

Tenchiro

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BurlyShirley said:
A properly aged steak is actually a good thing. The right amount of cell degeneration (read ROTTING) makes it oh so tender :drool:
But to be sure there is a HUGE difference between proper, dry aged beef and just old meat that has been sitting in a plastic wrapped polystyrene container.

= :drool:
 

Silver

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BurlyShirley said:
A properly aged steak is actually a good thing. The right amount of cell degeneration (read ROTTING) makes it oh so tender :drool:
I usually buy a bunch of whole chickens when they are on sale. One of the three markets around here always has them for .59 a pound. Saves a ton of money...anyways, I've found that the best roast birds are the ones that I've had in the fridge for five or six days.
 

moff_quigley

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Tenchiro said:
I don't know if electrocuting them is any cleaner than simply slitting their throats and bleeding them out, but I doubt it.
I think the industry standard is to shock the bird unconscious, then slit the throat to bleed them out. At the Tyson plant the birds were hanging by their feet and and they were run through this trough that was full of electrified water. It was only deep enough to get their heads wet for a few seconds. No more clucking birds after that.
 

ALEXIS_DH

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laura said:
maybe they aren't appalled at the act of killing, but the fact that they want to essentially attach a small slaughter house to the back of the store. Thats waste from 150 chickens a day, and dirty, nasty chicken possbily coming in contact with other areas of the store through cross contamination. I don't have an opinion one way or the other, and would rather buy chicken from those guys than tyson. But I'm just saying, the article is really vague about what people are upset about.

thats a rural hispanic custom.
people like to see their food die, cant be fresher.
 

valve bouncer

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ALEXIS_DH said:
thats a rural hispanic custom.
people like to see their food die, cant be fresher.
When I was in Zimbabwe a while back we got invited to this African guys house for dinner. So we sit down and the maid (he was quite well off) brings in this live chicken and passes it around and everyone says thank you. One of the girls we were with sort of giggles and says "what did we do they that for?". My mate looked at her and said "why do you reckon? Then the penny dropped. The look on her face was priceless. The chicken was excellent btw.
 

MikeD

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MudGrrl said:
there are too many little cutesy people out there thinking that pork chops grow on trees..........
My god...the ignorance in our society. Everyone knows you have to pull them out of the ground.