[Curb Hucker]

A friend of mine sent in a frame to Jan that Jan sent him un-heattreated and it broke. Jan told us he'd have a new frame to Nate in 2 weeks its been a month and now Jan's MIA, how the hell can i get a hold of him, Nate is moving in 3 weeks and needs his bike

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Well that sucks, as far as I know there has been no Jan sightings.

 

[dexterq20]

I'm sure Town (dhtahoe) can help you out on that one. Unless Jan already filed a restraining order against him.

 

[Curb Hucker]

I'm sure Town (dhtahoe) can help you out on that one. Unless Jan already filed a restraining order against him.

already tried, town was the one who told me he was MIA, damnit someone must have his phone number :mumble:

 

[Kornphlake]

Poor guy probabally had to move back to Poland to live with his in-laws. Face it your friend got hosed

 

[Curb Hucker]

Poor guy probabally had to move back to Poland to live with his in-laws. Face it your friend got hosed

that is exactly what frightens me

 

[kidwoo]

Goddamnit another one? That motherfvcker sent out several of those things without getting them heat treated. Your friend is not the only one, not by a long shot. Everyone I know has the same disconnected numbers I had. I've been keeping my mouth shut about this but I know of a few other people who have had frames start to fold on them.

Give sherwood gibson (venatana) a call or see if you can get ahold of someone at anodizing inc. or Kinesis. Sending anything to Jan at this point would be a mistake. You should know that by now.

 

[Curb Hucker]

Goddamnit another one? That motherfvcker sent out several of those things without getting them heat treated. Your friend is not the only one, not by a long shot. Everyone I know has the same disconnected numbers I had. I've been keeping my mouth shut about this but I know of a few other people who have had frames start to fold on them.

Give sherwood gibson (venatana) a call or see if you can get ahold of someone at anodizing inc. or Kinesis. Sending anything to Jan at this point would be a mistake. You should know that by now.

yup, his old business numbers and another number i had for him have all been disconnected. My friends front end folded and the rear end bent on a downhill run and the tire wore through the yoke on the chainstay. this was the 1st ride on the bike he did, he sent Jan the bike a week or so before Town broke news of the company folding, and a week or so ago all communication has stopped and all of Jans numbers have been disconnected i really hope nate doesnt get totally shafted on this

 

[kidwoo]

Sometimes you eat the bear sometimes the bear eats you.

Is the frame in any condition to be repaired or is it just trash?

If it's repairable, get someone else to do it.

 

[Curb Hucker]

Sometimes you eat the bear sometimes the bear eats you.

Is the frame in any condition to be repaired or is it just trash?

If it's repairable, get someone else to do it.

its only worth its weight in AL

 

[kidwoo]

clean out your PMs boy

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Great, I hope mine was actually heat treated.

 

[Curb Hucker]

Great, I hope mine was actually heat treated.

it was, because our frames came from the same heat-treat batch, my friends fell apart in 1 run

 

[Curb Hucker]

clean out your PMs boy

done

 

[Brian HCM#1]

it was, because our frames came from the same heat-treat batch, my friends fell apart in 1 run

Thats cool, so far its held up through all the sh*t I've walked down.

 

[Curb Hucker]

Thats cool, so far its held up through all the sh*t I've walked down.

ya if it was improperly heattreated you would have crushed the tubes when carrying it

but im seriously pissed off, even his home # is no longer in service

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Yeah, this whole situation sucks.

 

[zedro]

geez thats criminal. I mean, you just dont *forget* to heat treat a frame, just like you just dont forget to weld it together and accidently ship off a bunch of loose tubes. Pure bait and switch, take the money and run....

i hate to say this, but maybe this finger deal of his is from mob-like Karma...

 

[Jm_]

Looks like that finger injury was a lot more serious than any of us thought!!!

Who woulda thought?

 

[dhtahoe]

The finger is an excuse... he was in trouble LONG before that. Jan gave a finger in more ways than one.

 

[chicodude]

Jan sounds like an ass, not the kind of guy you trust with 2k

 

[Horrendous Hack]

I don't know. The website said it was pretty serious...
Good bikes when made properly, but I'll admit he was fu***** with customers way before the finger incident and may well use the accident as an excuse.

Suckage.

 

[vitox]

ouch this sounds like there will be a lot of problems

in case it might help anyone, ive got a heat treatment facility connection here, done lots of frames and they do them for dirt cheap, around 20usd or under for t6 that needs to be done to frames, not sure how much it costs in the states but ive been told its several times that, normally process takes 2-3 days.
might be worth the shipping back&forth.

 

[Low_b]

Jan told us he'd have a new frame to Nate in 2 weeks its been a month and now

You're ok, 2 weeks in Jan time is really 6 months in human time.

Sorry I know not funny... :nuts:

 

[dump]

the problem is...

1. the frames are sent out untreated (probably didn't have the dough to pay for heat treating)
2. the unwitting sobs ride them & break/disfigure them beyond repair
3. send them back to the address Karpiel sent thm (i.e. black hole)

so not only are they out of $2k+, they're out of a frame too.

in my estimation, there's onlyl hope for folks who haven't ridden their "new" frames from Karpiel... after all the drama that's gone down in the past few months - who would still do business w/ this guy? Was he offering some great deals or what?

 

[dump]

btw, if your frame isn't heat treated after welding, you'll know on the first ride.

 

[zedro]

btw, if your frame isn't heat treated after welding, you'll know on the first ride.

"hmmm...i'm pretty sure i didnt ask for a 47 degree head angle...."

 

[Brian HCM#1]

the problem is...

1. the frames are sent out untreated (probably didn't have the dough to pay for heat treating)
2. the unwitting sobs ride them & break/disfigure them beyond repair
3. send them back to the address Karpiel sent thm (i.e. black hole)

so not only are they out of $2k+, they're out of a frame too.

in my estimation, there's onlyl hope for folks who haven't ridden their "new" frames from Karpiel... after all the drama that's gone down in the past few months - who would still do business w/ this guy? Was he offering some great deals or what?

The sad thing it seems if he didn't blow his $ on other stuff he'd probably be doing okay. Looking at the costs of material and parts, it would appear like he has a decent profit on each frame he builds. I'm figuring on him building 5-10 frames a month.

 

[Curb Hucker]

i knew all the inside info on his frame cost, and all ill say is that he made far more than enough profit per bike to stay afloat if he could run a business

 

[dfinn]

this might be a shot in the dark but is there anything the NV better buisness beareau (sp?) can do?

 

[Low_b]

Call the NV BB!!
T%hat might work

 

[vitox]

btw, if your frame isn't heat treated after welding, you'll know on the first ride.

not necessarily, but close.

been there done that.

 

[zedro]

Call the NV BB!!
T%hat might work

or the IRS, just for sh!ts and giggles....

 

[Low_b]

or the IRS, just for sh!ts and giggles....

Yea, no matter how you slice it, it'll still be hard to find the guy.

 

[Jimmy_Pop]

yall look for him at Interbike.

 

[Dingus McGee]

EWWWWW!


I heard Jan's out using this technique to liberate motorcycles for export to Poland...

http://biginjapan.com/extranet/assets/ben/krypto_ev_disc_web.mov

 

[dump]

not necessarily, but close.

been there done that.

ditto... depends on the material... but you get the idea.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

i knew all the inside info on his frame cost, and all ill say is that he made far more than enough profit per bike to stay afloat if he could run a business

That kinda was my point.

 

[dhtahoe]

And two months ago people though I was nuts!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kidwoo]

And two months ago people though I was nuts!!!!!!!!!!!

Who said you weren't?