[chicodude]

Ahahaha...whatever Stevew

 

[jimmydean]

buy this:

You're a retard

 

[blue]

Hey, he obviously doesn't give two ****s about the way the car drives...Might as well look good.

 

[jimmydean]

Hey, he obviously doesn't give two ****s about the way the car drives...Might as well look good.

Maybe it would look good if they adjusted the camber so the whole tire was on the road.

 

[Toshi]

to the VW guy's credit, running lots of negative front camber is the way to get a car to rotate. and fwd, front-heavy VWs need all the help they can get.

fun fact: look at the vast majority of cars out there, upgraded wheels/tires or not, and you'll find them running close to 0 front camber and lots of negative rear camber. you know what that means? UNDERSTEER. yet they probably think their BMW/VW/Alpina is god's gift because they don't know any better.

 

[Summit]

i don't even care that much about the gas mileage of it. i was objecting to the clueless BMW-fanboi's assertion that you seem like someone who "likes to drive". the implication of that is not that you like to tool around on jeep trails, but that you appreciate a car that handles well on the road.

the H3 is not such a vehicle. end of discussion

God, it's like talking to a brick wall. I merely was explaining that it is possible to 'like to drive' even if you are forced into owning a SUV for the practical reasons. I didn't lose the desire to drive a car that's actually rewarding to drive just b/c I drove an Xterra for 7 years.

fun fact: look at the vast majority of cars out there, upgraded wheels/tires or not, and you'll find them running close to 0 front camber and lots of negative rear camber. you know what that means? UNDERSTEER. yet they probably think their BMW/VW/Alpina is god's gift because they don't know any better.

You do realize that BMW's are RWD, and even the xi versions are biased about 60/40 to the rear to maintain the RWD driving characteristics? That equals oversteer.

 

[syadasti]

God, it's like talking to a brick wall. I merely was explaining that it is possible to 'like to drive' even if you are forced into owning a SUV for the practical reasons. I didn't lose the desire to drive a car that's actually rewarding to drive just b/c I drove an Xterra for 7 years.

You do realized Toshi owned a 4WD SUV setup for off-roading and is being a bit hypocritical

 

[jimmydean]

to the VW guy's credit, running lots of negative front camber is the way to get a car to rotate. and fwd, front-heavy VWs need all the help they can get.

fun fact: look at the vast majority of cars out there, upgraded wheels/tires or not, and you'll find them running close to 0 front camber and lots of negative rear camber. you know what that means? UNDERSTEER. yet they probably think their BMW/VW/Alpina is god's gift because they don't know any better.

I spent a lot of time and effort to get my camber/caster correct for "ride height" when I did the air ride system on my truck. A lot of people take a stock car, put in lowering springs and call it a day without making the correct adjustments to the rest of the vehicle.

At full dump I had a little too much, at full lift, I had too little, but it was all set up at optimum ride height.

 

[Toshi]

You do realize that BMW's are RWD, and even the xi versions are biased about 60/40 to the rear to maintain the RWD driving characteristics? That equals oversteer.

A) cite the specs that show a rear-biased torque split in xi models. Ni, bimmerforums is not a valid source

B) RWD does not equate with oversteer. You think city buses naturally oversteer because they are rear wheel drive? Do you think the 1 series, by all magazine accounts an understeering pig with a strong engine, oversteers? Give me a break - you're out of your depth.

 

[skatetokil]

I have an xi and it is rear biased.

Actually 38front / 62rear - http://www.theacorn.com/News/2001/0405/Motoring.html