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why do DHers think they are so extreme???

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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Originally posted by LordOpie
out of all the forms of riding, it does appear that the worst attitudes come from the DHers. I'm not saying any of y'all, but open your ears and eyes and judge for yourself.

The worst violators of trail rules, trail safety and public relations where i'm at are easily and by far the DHers. No no, not all, but it does appear that statistically, that group has the largest proportion of violators.
So where, exactly, do these comments enter into the discussion?

If you have a problem with DH'ers lack of respect, that's fine, but that's not what anyone is arguing, nor is it what jackson stated, so you're not "backing him up" at all. You're flinging a random comment into the fray and claiming it's on topic...
 

Snacks

Turbo Monkey
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Originally posted by LordOpie
DHers suck!


The worst violators of trail rules, trail safety and public relations where i'm at are easily and by far the DHers. No no, not all, but it does appear that statistically, that group has the largest proportion of violators.

Funny....the DHers I ride with good mannered on the trails. I think because they are used to getting a bad rap they do their best to set a good example around others.

To me the worst trail safety violators are the roadies turned xc racers....they are just plain rude!
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by binary visions
So where, exactly, do these comments enter into the discussion?

If you have a problem with DH'ers lack of respect, that's fine, but that's not what anyone is arguing, nor is it what jackson stated, so you're not "backing him up" at all. You're flinging a random comment into the fray and claiming it's on topic...
I know, don't care... I'm pushing my own agenda :D

besides, in true monkey fashion, you're way outta line worrying about a thread going off topic :nopity:

I'm guessing you're one of those evil DHers! :devil:
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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Originally posted by LordOpie
besides, in true monkey fashion, you're way outta line worrying about a thread going off topic
Hey, I'm the last one to worry about the thread going off topic, but at least don't claim it's on topic ;)
 

Motionboy2

Calendar Dominator
Apr 23, 2002
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Originally posted by Westy

I am mainly an XC rider but have some limited experience in road and downhill. IMO road riding is the most extreme. You suffer from all the elements, the smallest bumps beat the crap out of you, you suffer like a dog from the climbs, the severity of injury is pretty damn bad due to the potiential high speeds and close riding, the training and disciplin required to compete is incredible not to mention the fricken cars. I know of more roadies who have been seriously injured than any other type of sports biking or not.
I agree and disagree, I think all aspects of riding can be most extreme when the person is really pushing themself. In Road, XC, DH, and DJ you can severly injure yourself. Unfortunatly everyone feels the need to elevate their sport so they have to ignore the tough aspects of the other competing sports. Road Riding is tough, so is XC and you wear lycra...PRO DH racers wear lycra...does that take away from what they do?
 

Lexx D

Dirty Dozen
Mar 8, 2004
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Originally posted by Motionboy2
PRO DH racers wear lycra...does that take away from what they do?
Yes :D Spandex should be illegal in cycling.........unless of course it's on a female cyclist:evil:
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by Motionboy2
I think all aspects of riding can be most extreme when the person is really pushing themself. In Road, XC, DH, and DJ you can severly injure yourself.
just ask Full Trucker! :devil:
 

douglas

Chocolate Milk Doug
May 15, 2002
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jackson!

jackson!

where are ya???


I race XC & DH

I've meet a lot of great, nice, easy going, helpful & modest guys (& girls) at BOTH !

stop the hate!!

share the :love:
 

jacksonpt

Turbo Monkey
Jul 22, 2002
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Originally posted by dh girlie
I think you're trying to stir up a pot and you're sitting back waiting for the fireworks to start
ding ding ding ding!!! I'm very bored and looking for some good conversation. Pictures of broken wrists and movies quotes are nice and all, but I was wanting some more energy and substance...

In all truth... I have respect for anyone riding any type of bike on any type of terrain when they could be sitting on the couch watching porn (though there is a time and a place for porn)... even the old dude in MMcG's DH photo essay from this weekend. Riding is good, period.

I've never tried DH, but I'd love to. I'd love to get down to pkill for some moderately lowlevel DHing... at least until I get the feel for it. I've watched some very modest DH, and I've seen some pretty crazy chit on OLN. It does seem to require a very different skillset than does true XC riding (or rigid SS for that matter)... but I do have a great deal of respect for DHers. It's gotta be brutal on your body, regardless of how much travel you have.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Originally posted by Motionboy2
I agree and disagree, I think all aspects of riding can be most extreme when the person is really pushing themself. In Road, XC, DH, and DJ you can severly injure yourself. Unfortunatly everyone feels the need to elevate their sport so they have to ignore the tough aspects of the other competing sports. Road Riding is tough, so is XC and you wear lycra...PRO DH racers wear lycra...does that take away from what they do?
I agree with you disagreeing, or do I disagree with you disagreeing? Either way I agree with what you said.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by Serial Midget
No. It just makes them gay. Pay attention damn it! :D
i must admit, it took me quite a while to wear lycra. Mtb shorts on a roadbike simply don't work... tears up my skin. I can no longer wear non-lycra while roading. l And now I'm tempted -- not yet -- to wear lycra when I'm mtb'ing too.
 

JRogers

talks too much
Mar 19, 2002
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Huh. Well I suppose I do see where some of this is coming from. There is a distinct amount of roadie-bashing sometimes. Wasn't there a thread like yesterday: "Am I [gay/stupid/something else 'bad'] for wanting a road bike?" As if we all have some preconcieved anger against road riding.

On the other hand, this thread is ridiculous. The skill set for riding DH and XC is not that different. I ride DH, XC and road (and have 3 bikes to do it) and, when it comes down to it, they are not all that dissimilar. As for the physical aspects, in a DH race, I always end up barely being able to breathe at the finish line. Going hard is going hard, no matter where you are.
 

dh girlie

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Originally posted by jacksonpt
ding ding ding ding!!! I'm very bored and looking for some good conversation. Pictures of broken wrists and movies quotes are nice and all, but I was wanting some more energy and substance...

In all truth... I have respect for anyone riding any type of bike on any type of terrain when they could be sitting on the couch watching porn (though there is a time and a place for porn)... even the old dude in MMcG's DH photo essay from this weekend. Riding is good, period.

I've never tried DH, but I'd love to. I'd love to get down to pkill for some moderately lowlevel DHing... at least until I get the feel for it. I've watched some very modest DH, and I've seen some pretty crazy chit on OLN. It does seem to require a very different skillset than does true XC riding (or rigid SS for that matter)... but I do have a great deal of respect for DHers. It's gotta be brutal on your body, regardless of how much travel you have.
HA! I KNEW it...it's like being an alcoholic or drug addict...you can see it in others...

Yep, you can get pretty damn beat up on a good day of dhing...not just from crashing...but just hanging on for dear life...
 

Leethal

Turbo Monkey
Oct 27, 2001
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I think the real men (and women) are those who climb... who have to struggle to keep traction just as hard as they fight to keep the cranks spinning - and that's on the EASY parts of the climb. [/B]


I think the real men are the ones who ride on the road with cars trying to hit them or at least run them off the road....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Dude we are all riding bicycles get over it.
 

jacksonpt

Turbo Monkey
Jul 22, 2002
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Originally posted by Leethal
Dude we are all riding bicycles get over it.
Dude... read the rest of the thread. I was trying to stir up some good talk. Scroll up the page just a bit and read my other posts in this thread - "Riding is good, period."
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by Leethal
I think the real men are the ones who ride on the road with cars trying to hit them or at least run them off the road...
I'm in total agreeance. In order for DH or XC to compare, bears should have to jump out at you once in a while.
 

Motionboy2

Calendar Dominator
Apr 23, 2002
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Originally posted by LordOpie
I'm in total agreeance. In order for DH or XC to compare, bears should have to jump out at you once in a while.
I have had bears in the trail before, I have had deer jump out at me. Then I moved to colorado and I have just seen snakes.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by Motionboy2
I have had bears in the trail before, I have had deer jump out at me. Then I moved to colorado and I have just seen snakes.
Brother, you need to go to Waterton Canyon, on the jeep road just before the single-track, i've seen big horn sheep, elk, and a 4' black bear! :cool: The scariest was the deer... friggin' pack of 'em ran in random directions, some at me. Saw a rattler on Green Mt.
 

bomberz1qr20

Turbo Monkey
Nov 19, 2001
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I think a real man would get on bmx bike and tow a DH rider up the hill. Then he'd slam a bunch of vodka, squeeze some random ass, then hurl himself down the mountain on a badly tuned Dahon folder.

At the bottom he'd eat a few hard boiled egs, more vodka, then it's off to the gun store.

Aside from that, all bikes are for wimps.
 

TN

Hey baby, want a hot dog?
Jul 9, 2002
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Originally posted by Leethal
I think the real men are the ones who ride on the road with cars trying to hit them or at least run them off the road....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Dude we are all riding bicycles get over it.
:stupid:

when I think of all the times I have really been scared on a bike it was in traffic with idiots in cars trying to take me out or almost taking me out....that fear does not compare to any I have felt on any trail.
 
Originally posted by jacksonpt
I don't get it... How hard is it to put 8" of travel under you, lean back, and hold on? I definitely respect people who do it on a hard tail, but with a bunch of squish at each end, c'mon. Then to top it off... they hop in a Jeep or on a ski lift and get a ride to the top??? gimma a break.

I think the real men (and women) are those who climb... who have to struggle to keep traction just as hard as they fight to keep the cranks spinning - and that's on the EASY parts of the climb.
Why does everyone who rides a freakin bike think that THEY are more extreme than others who ride?

I have highlited the portion of your query that explains everthing.
YOU THINK.
Why is YOUR opinion more valid?.
I Ride both, but unlike yourself I don't subscribe to the ridiculous notion that DHing on a full suspension bike is Easy.
It is not, it is however MUCH faster.
Some people like the speed, and lets face it, no matter how bad of a fall you can take DHing on a hardtail, the massive increase in speed on a full suspension bike makes the falls that much worse..

I suggest you step down from your "hardtail/XC pride" soapbox and think before you speak.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by shootr
Why does everyone who rides a freakin bike think that THEY are more extreme than others who ride?

I have highlited the portion of your query that explains everthing.
YOU THINK.
Why is YOUR opinion more valid?.
I Ride both, but unlike yourself I don't subscribe to the ridiculous notion that DHing on a full suspension bike is Easy.
It is not, it is however MUCH faster.
Some people like the speed, and lets face it, no matter how bad of a fall you can take DHing on a hardtail, the massive increase in speed on a full suspension bike makes the falls that much worse..

I suggest you step down from your "hardtail/XC pride" soapbox and think before you speak.
no way man, jacksonpt is absolutely correct. What's next for you... a motor?
 

Snacks

Turbo Monkey
Feb 20, 2003
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Originally posted by Leethal
I think the real men are the ones who ride on the road with cars trying to hit them or at least run them off the road....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Dude we are all riding bicycles get over it.

I'm with you! I never want to ever ride my bike on the road, those dang cars scare me!! :(
 
Oh... let me guess. you think that MXers are fat lazy guys who guzzle beer and have belching contests..... weak.

As a whole supercross track atheletes have a lower average percentage of body fat than ANY other sport.

but wait.. You sure told me:rolleyes:
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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so we're agreed then? Good. Roadies are indeed the most hardcore riders around!


psst, shootr, stop being an ass and read the thread. :D
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
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Originally posted by shootr
Oh... let me guess. you think that MXers are fat lazy guys who guzzle beer and have belching contests..... weak.

As a whole supercross track atheletes have a lower average percentage of body fat than ANY other sport.

but wait.. You sure told me:rolleyes:
Holy PMS Batman!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
 

Snacks

Turbo Monkey
Feb 20, 2003
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Originally posted by shootr

As a whole supercross track atheletes have a lower average percentage of body fat than ANY other sport.
What's a supercross track athlete? Do they run while carrying their bike?
 

Skookum

bikey's is cool
Jul 26, 2002
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Riding trails of dirt is fun.......:) This thread reminds me that my Bullit needs some gravity, i've been riding the piss out of my enduro.